Tipping, your opinions please

[ariston]

If your dealer is doing a good job then tip them (the same you tip other peole in the service industry- waitress,barmaid,taxi driver etc).

The fact it needs to be debated at all surprises me as most peole who sit and play live cash games aren't trying to grind out few bbs an hour like they used to do in rounders etc, the cash games nowadays are very swingy. A good dealer who can control the table and look after the players is gold dust imo. for any of you who think its an easy job sitting on your arse for a few hours i suggest you try dealing a 10 hour stretch and see how your back feels. Then throw in abuse from players who suffer the odd beat, maybe the odd card chuck at your head or deliberately spun at your knuckles. Dont get me wrong some games the dealers will love sitting in if you have the correct players there-there are many tables I would pay to sit and deal at. It is very player dependant and if a dealer goes in work not knowing if he/she is going to have a horrible table or a pleasant one added to the fact some will tip some wont its not a job most of us would want 24/7. Everyone seems to use the argument about well they can find another job, what about the people who work in mcdonalds on minimum wage- do you think that their lifetimes ambition was to work in a burger bar? If everyone went and found another job what would happen to the jobs everyone sees as a shitty? Fact is somebody has to do the job and many dealers actually enjoy what they do (doesnt mean they shouldnt get paid properly for it though)

Tipping isnt mandatory but if you have a good dealer whats the harm in chucking them a chip or two whenever you drag a pot? If your dealer isn't up to scratch then don't tip ,same argument as waitress etc where you would only tip if you think they have done a good job although I bet most who stamp their feet about tiping a dealer still tip a waitress if the service is shit because its "expected" and the norm to leave 10% or whatever. I am one who would happily say in a restaurant "no the meals been as bad as the service" when asked the obligitory "is everything ok for you sir", how many of you would just happily say " fine thanks" and leave a tip but then feel irked about chucking a tip to a dealer?

[Chili]

The dealers at Equal Chance only rely on tips for their wage too!

[ItsMrAlex2u]

i tip copious amounts wherever i go. poker, taxis, bars, restaurants.

Say a £23 taxi = £30 paid

£50 meal = £60 paid

I really couldnt give a dogs arse about a few quid. Im a professional poker player, i earn much more than these people. I used to be a waiter when i was ultra young and i appreciate how hard it actually is. With taxis drivers the poor bastards get hit with never ending fuel hikes etc etc so i feel a little sorry for them doing 15 hour shifts to pay for their families. I earn that in no time sitting on my lazy ass busting fish. So i think these people deserve a little tip, especially if it puts a smile on their face and mine

 

im with you on this

[GlasgowBandit]

I tend to tip when I put in a winning session.  Sometimes I tip everytime i scoop a nice pot if I am up for the session.  If I am not doing so great and grinding it out I tend to wait to the end of the session before tipping. 

[LeKnave]

i tip copious amounts wherever i go. poker, taxis, bars, restaurants.

Say a £23 taxi = £30 paid

£50 meal = £60 paid

I really couldnt give a dogs arse about a few quid. Im a professional poker player, i earn much more than these people. I used to be a waiter when i was ultra young and i appreciate how hard it actually is. With taxis drivers the poor bastards get hit with never ending fuel hikes etc etc so i feel a little sorry for them doing 15 hour shifts to pay for their families. I earn that in no time sitting on my lazy ass busting fish. So i think these people deserve a little tip, especially if it puts a smile on their face and mine

[boldie]

i tip copious amounts wherever i go. poker, taxis, bars, restaurants.

Say a £23 taxi = £30 paid

£50 meal = £60 paid

I really couldnt give a dogs arse about a few quid. Im a professional poker player, i earn much more than these people. I used to be a waiter when i was ultra young and i appreciate how hard it actually is. With taxis drivers the poor bastards get hit with never ending fuel hikes etc etc so i feel a little sorry for them doing 15 hour shifts to pay for their families. I earn that in no time sitting on my lazy ass busting fish. So i think these people deserve a little tip, especially if it puts a smile on their face and mine

[LeKnave]

norrrrrr u were too fast for my edit.

[Sunday8pm]

lol superb.

A+

I am quite 'loose' with money though. Just the way i are innit!

[LLevan]

The dealers at Equal Chance only rely on tips for their wage too!

Do Equal Chance not make enough money out of the rake and tournament fees to pay wages.
They choose to work there under those conditions but it still doesn't justify their asking for or expecting tips. If they want to deal for a living they could easily apply for a job within the casino environment where they would be earning a salary.
I've nothing against tipping dealers as over the years like I said previously I have played in many spielers and private games and always tipped but it irks me when dealers either expect a tip or advertise what a good job they have done.

[kinboshi]

If your dealer is doing a good job then tip them (the same you tip other peole in the service industry- waitress,barmaid,taxi driver etc).

The fact it needs to be debated at all surprises me as most peole who sit and play live cash games aren't trying to grind out few bbs an hour like they used to do in rounders etc, the cash games nowadays are very swingy. A good dealer who can control the table and look after the players is gold dust imo. for any of you who think its an easy job sitting on your arse for a few hours i suggest you try dealing a 10 hour stretch and see how your back feels. Then throw in abuse from players who suffer the odd beat, maybe the odd card chuck at your head or deliberately spun at your knuckles. Dont get me wrong some games the dealers will love sitting in if you have the correct players there-there are many tables I would pay to sit and deal at. It is very player dependant and if a dealer goes in work not knowing if he/she is going to have a horrible table or a pleasant one added to the fact some will tip some wont its not a job most of us would want 24/7. Everyone seems to use the argument about well they can find another job, what about the people who work in mcdonalds on minimum wage- do you think that their lifetimes ambition was to work in a burger bar? If everyone went and found another job what would happen to the jobs everyone sees as a shitty? Fact is somebody has to do the job and many dealers actually enjoy what they do (doesnt mean they shouldnt get paid properly for it though)

Tipping isnt mandatory but if you have a good dealer whats the harm in chucking them a chip or two whenever you drag a pot? If your dealer isn't up to scratch then don't tip ,same argument as waitress etc where you would only tip if you think they have done a good job although I bet most who stamp their feet about tiping a dealer still tip a waitress if the service is shit because its "expected" and the norm to leave 10% or whatever. I am one who would happily say in a restaurant "no the meals been as bad as the service" when asked the obligitory "is everything ok for you sir", how many of you would just happily say " fine thanks" and leave a tip but then feel irked about chucking a tip to a dealer?

What about a place like DTD, where the tips are pooled and then split?  You're not really tipping the dealer at your table, you're tipping all the dealers (a small amount each time obviously).  So the tip isn't an acknowledgement of an individual's good service - it's more of a general tip to all the dealers.

[ariston]

If your dealer is doing a good job then tip them (the same you tip other peole in the service industry- waitress,barmaid,taxi driver etc).

The fact it needs to be debated at all surprises me as most peole who sit and play live cash games aren't trying to grind out few bbs an hour like they used to do in rounders etc, the cash games nowadays are very swingy. A good dealer who can control the table and look after the players is gold dust imo. for any of you who think its an easy job sitting on your arse for a few hours i suggest you try dealing a 10 hour stretch and see how your back feels. Then throw in abuse from players who suffer the odd beat, maybe the odd card chuck at your head or deliberately spun at your knuckles. Dont get me wrong some games the dealers will love sitting in if you have the correct players there-there are many tables I would pay to sit and deal at. It is very player dependant and if a dealer goes in work not knowing if he/she is going to have a horrible table or a pleasant one added to the fact some will tip some wont its not a job most of us would want 24/7. Everyone seems to use the argument about well they can find another job, what about the people who work in mcdonalds on minimum wage- do you think that their lifetimes ambition was to work in a burger bar? If everyone went and found another job what would happen to the jobs everyone sees as a shitty? Fact is somebody has to do the job and many dealers actually enjoy what they do (doesnt mean they shouldnt get paid properly for it though)

Tipping isnt mandatory but if you have a good dealer whats the harm in chucking them a chip or two whenever you drag a pot? If your dealer isn't up to scratch then don't tip ,same argument as waitress etc where you would only tip if you think they have done a good job although I bet most who stamp their feet about tiping a dealer still tip a waitress if the service is shit because its "expected" and the norm to leave 10% or whatever. I am one who would happily say in a restaurant "no the meals been as bad as the service" when asked the obligitory "is everything ok for you sir", how many of you would just happily say " fine thanks" and leave a tip but then feel irked about chucking a tip to a dealer?

What about a place like DTD, where the tips are pooled and then split?  You're not really tipping the dealer at your table, you're tipping all the dealers (a small amount each time obviously).  So the tip isn't an acknowledgement of an individual's good service - it's more of a general tip to all the dealers.

you think when you tip a waitress it goes in her pocket? Most waitresses pool with each other, barmen glass collectors etc.

I would much rather tip at the end of a hand than the end of a tourney though as not much of it actually gets to each individual dealer. If you happened to win an EPT for instance the tip is chopped up into %s with the TD getting his, then the floormen, then the dealers etc. I would like to think if I won a big title I would leave the standard tip but make sure and find any dealer who had given me a lucky outdraw or something like that a drink seperatley. Even though that probably wouldnt be allowed and could get the dealer in trouble. Lets face it its hardly likely to happen though as I would have to win one first.

In cork in december when I drew a few quid I left the tip for the dealers and then gave a seperate tip to the waitresses and another one to tommy on the door. I wasnt being balla doing that, the waitresses look after me on every trip over there and tommy always sorts out taxis, hotels for players who arrive late and generally looks after you whatever you need. Now this is his job and he gets paid to do it but why shouldnt he get a drink when one of the regulars gets a result? A couple involved in the chop with me it was obviously their first ever result and they asked how much to leave- I couldnt possibly say how much someone else should leave I just told them what I leave and what is the "norm" and they made their own minds up.

imo any poker player who doesnt tip values money to much. We are fortuate to do what we love either for a living or for a hobby (those that play for a hobby regularly can afford to) so why not look after the staff when you win a pot. the biggest winners in cash games and tourneys tend to be good tippers- is it karma or is it simply because they don't value money so greatly meaning they never played scared???

[Sunday8pm]

Cafe Rouge tips go straight into your pocket. Same with Pizza Express. 0% to kitchen or anywhere else

[kinboshi]

If your dealer is doing a good job then tip them (the same you tip other peole in the service industry- waitress,barmaid,taxi driver etc).

The fact it needs to be debated at all surprises me as most peole who sit and play live cash games aren't trying to grind out few bbs an hour like they used to do in rounders etc, the cash games nowadays are very swingy. A good dealer who can control the table and look after the players is gold dust imo. for any of you who think its an easy job sitting on your arse for a few hours i suggest you try dealing a 10 hour stretch and see how your back feels. Then throw in abuse from players who suffer the odd beat, maybe the odd card chuck at your head or deliberately spun at your knuckles. Dont get me wrong some games the dealers will love sitting in if you have the correct players there-there are many tables I would pay to sit and deal at. It is very player dependant and if a dealer goes in work not knowing if he/she is going to have a horrible table or a pleasant one added to the fact some will tip some wont its not a job most of us would want 24/7. Everyone seems to use the argument about well they can find another job, what about the people who work in mcdonalds on minimum wage- do you think that their lifetimes ambition was to work in a burger bar? If everyone went and found another job what would happen to the jobs everyone sees as a shitty? Fact is somebody has to do the job and many dealers actually enjoy what they do (doesnt mean they shouldnt get paid properly for it though)

Tipping isnt mandatory but if you have a good dealer whats the harm in chucking them a chip or two whenever you drag a pot? If your dealer isn't up to scratch then don't tip ,same argument as waitress etc where you would only tip if you think they have done a good job although I bet most who stamp their feet about tiping a dealer still tip a waitress if the service is shit because its "expected" and the norm to leave 10% or whatever. I am one who would happily say in a restaurant "no the meals been as bad as the service" when asked the obligitory "is everything ok for you sir", how many of you would just happily say " fine thanks" and leave a tip but then feel irked about chucking a tip to a dealer?

What about a place like DTD, where the tips are pooled and then split?  You're not really tipping the dealer at your table, you're tipping all the dealers (a small amount each time obviously).  So the tip isn't an acknowledgement of an individual's good service - it's more of a general tip to all the dealers.

you think when you tip a waitress it goes in her pocket?

Depends where you are.

[ariston]

Cafe Rouge tips go straight into your pocket. Same with Pizza Express. 0% to kitchen or anywhere else

sorry ben but do tips in cafe rouge or pizza express really count lol

as dtd was being brought up in comparison i was comparing it to a restaurant of a similar standard (ie top end) where tips are always pooled.

[Sunday8pm]

Cafe Rouge tips go straight into your pocket. Same with Pizza Express. 0% to kitchen or anywhere else

sorry ben but do tips in cafe rouge or pizza express really count lol

as DTD was being brought up in comparison i was comparing it to a restaurant of a similar standard (ie top end) where tips are always pooled.

Not so much Cafe Rouge, but Pizza Express is quite an upmarket place to eat. In fact, at nearly all top end retaurants i know of. You will have a waiter/waitress assigned to your table and they will be the one who collects the tip at the end. In some cases a small % going to the bar/kitchen staff.