ok what now?

[Ironside]

you have reraised and got 2 smaller stacks to push and the orginal UTG raiser to fold

is this an insta fold or call?


PokerStars Game #21113675342: Tournament #113566770, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/10/11 16:36:18 ET
Table '113566770 19' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Regal Lady (1170 in chips)
Seat 2: elkjaer.p.l (1425 in chips)
Seat 3: venale (1320 in chips)
Seat 4: jokerxxr1 (720 in chips)
Seat 5: atlantis101 (2905 in chips)
Seat 6: andi555999 (1490 in chips)
Seat 7: sk83502 (950 in chips)
Seat 8: Ironside (3390 in chips)
Seat 9: Esat1 (6435 in chips)
jokerxxr1: posts small blind 15
atlantis101: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
andi555999: folds
sk83502: raises 30 to 60
Ironside: raises 120 to 180
Esat1: folds
Regal Lady: folds
elkjaer.p.l: folds
venale: raises 1140 to 1320 and is all-in
jokerxxr1: calls 705 and is all-in
atlantis101: folds
sk83502: folds

[thetank]

What do you know about venale and joker?

[Ironside]

nothing

[TheChipPrince]

I would call in a flash. Your ahead of one if not both, 95% one has AK, other a pair smaller than QQ's making this an easy call with amount in the pot and what you've put in.

[thetank]

Call

nothing

Ok, but this is not the answer you want to be giving often.

Joker has lost half his stack, how? Has he been playing lots of little hands or one big hand? If it was one big hand, how long ago was it?
If this call was a bit closer then this would be crucial info.

[gatso]

snap call

venale's ridic overshove is so commom atm online and is almost always a mid pair or AK. we only have to beat him to at worst break even on the hand and we're crushing his range.

joker probs has a slightly tighter range but still one that we're way ahead of

[Graham C]

Agreed with everyone, I'm calling this.  The shove is stupid, I'm calling this for the same reasons posted

[Ironside]

Call

nothing

Ok, but this is not the answer you want to be giving often.

Joker has lost half his stack, how? Has he been playing lots of little hands or one big hand? If it was one big hand, how long ago was it?
If this call was a bit closer then this would be crucial info.

youve been at the table less than one orbit

[thetank]

excuses 

[Ironside]

still in this one just burst the bubble card dead and postion dead for last 30 mins though

[Graham C]

so what did you do and what did they have?

[Ironside]

i called having thought for a bit

both had pairs smaller than mine

[Ironside]

one time

man i thought i was drawing but had alot of bullets to dodge

PokerStars Game #21115450021: Tournament #113566770, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2008/10/11 17:48:13 ET
Table '113566770 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Ironside (13436 in chips)
Seat 2: cabo kenny (28353 in chips)
Seat 5: Tce690 (14832 in chips)
Seat 6: tab26 (14822 in chips)
Seat 7: blackicecold (28742 in chips)
Seat 8: Sabian300 (32895 in chips)
Ironside: posts the ante 300
cabo kenny: posts the ante 300
Tce690: posts the ante 300
tab26: posts the ante 300
blackicecold: posts the ante 300
Sabian300: posts the ante 300
Sabian300: posts small blind 1500
Ironside: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
cabo kenny: folds
Tce690: folds
tab26: folds
blackicecold: folds
Sabian300: raises 29595 to 32595 and is all-in
Ironside: calls 10136 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (19459) returned to Sabian300
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] [As]
*** RIVER *** [ As] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sabian300: shows [ ] (a pair of Aces)
Ironside: shows [ ] (a pair of Aces - Ten kicker)
Ironside collected 28072 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 28072 | Rake 0
Board [ As ]
Seat 1: Ironside (big blind) showed [ ] and won (28072) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: cabo kenny folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tce690 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tab26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: blackicecold (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Sabian300 (small blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Aces

[Ironside]

made the final there is 9800 in the pot from the get go with average stack of 30k

[Ironside]

just pushed with TT on button BB called AJ river jack

getting fed up with going deep and losing races