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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 01:10:23 PM »

Nasty spot and a dirty dirty flop for your hand. We dont know the opponent but I would think he's almost never showing up with air to raise you here. Im ruling out KK and QQ too but AJ, QK 10,10 are all possible and have us in all kinds of bad shape. Do we really wanna get our whole stack in here second guessing against one of the few KJ/QJ type hands that at the moment we stand favourite (though not massively) against?

I can't really see how you can justify a flat call here either when you must know all the money is most likely going in on the turn if he does have you beat and if its one of those occasions where he does have air its unlikely you're getting a penny more anyway and cant really value bet your hand too well.
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 01:27:52 PM »

Check/call flop. As played, fold.
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 01:33:50 PM »

i'm still learning HU, but here I definitely check call the flop and then see what happens on the turn, he might have bottom two and a scare card (straight card) on the turn might slow him down. 100% against insta shoving, with deep stacks it's not a positive play long term I don't think. If the scare card comes you get another card to make your hand and if it doesn't you have to try and judge his hand strength by his turn bet IMO. So what happened???
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 03:11:35 PM »

i ended up folding
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2008, 12:03:23 PM »

Shove it all in pre obv....
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2008, 02:05:21 PM »

disagree with quite a few points on here im betting this flop everytime and i doubt your gonna get floated that often when this board hits your range so hard. i dont mind a bet/fold or bet/shove its very close either way. if your not rolled for this level id say bet/fold. decision would be alot easier if we had info on the players tendencies.

saying check this flop because you dont want a hard decision is only going to cost you money.
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2008, 02:40:32 PM »

disagree with quite a few points on here im betting this flop everytime and i doubt your gonna get floated that often when this board hits your range so hard. i dont mind a bet/fold or bet/shove its very close either way. if your not rolled for this level id say bet/fold. decision would be alot easier if we had info on the players tendencies.

saying check this flop because you dont want a hard decision is only going to cost you money.


lol wot u tryin to say???
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2008, 02:59:36 PM »

 Cheesy shut it fish!
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2008, 12:48:38 AM »

Reraise pre is a bit small given your stack sizes, position, and zero previous on your opponent. Shitty flop, I'd probably have kept pot smaller there. You bet, he reraises, on that flop the reraise can mean totally different things from different players. Basically you're lost. A call is ok, actually given your flop action I don't mind the fold either.
imo, AA is a pretty crap deep stacked cash game hand. You start off with the best starting hand and it ends up being you doing all the brainwork on the flop.  Against any kind of strength I try to put in a lot more prelop, a jam is not the worst move. To a big reraise AK KK QQ JJ stimes TT isn't passing.
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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2008, 12:53:39 AM »

ps never ever ever ever shove here. A fold is a MUCH better move than a shove. You have no previous on him. It is more likely than not that he will only call if he is ahead, which he quite possibly is.
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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2008, 03:40:08 AM »

surely a call is the worst play here.
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