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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2011, 02:28:02 PM »

I really dont like the idea of betting the flop whilst retaining the option to fold to the shove from villian. I think that it just damages your tournament chances too much. I think that you should decide before you bet, if you are going to call a shove and then go with it.
 One reason that i went for the check option on the flop, apart from hoping to hit a 9, was that you may well get check-raised,  by   or similar, as well as aces or kings. You aren't in brilliant shape against the flush draw. Now you are in a situation where you are gambling, but having already put in about a third of your stack.
 Thanks for posting. It's an interesting spot.
 I look forward to hearing how others would handle this situation.

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2011, 03:02:31 PM »

I really dont like the idea of betting the flop whilst retaining the option to fold to the shove from villian. I think that it just damages your tournament chances too much. I think that you should decide before you bet, if you are going to call a shove and then go with it.
 One reason that i went for the check option on the flop, apart from hoping to hit a 9, was that you may well get check-raised,  by  or similar, as well as aces or kings. You aren't in brilliant shape against the flush draw. Now you are in a situation where you are gambling, but having already put in about a third of your stack.
 Thanks for posting. It's an interesting spot.
 I look forward to hearing how others would handle this situation.

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Jam pre makes it all a lot easier.

This is true.

Also this is why Live players open shove 35bbs with KQ, 77, AT. Because they won't no where they are at.
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2011, 03:07:09 PM »

I really dont like the idea of betting the flop whilst retaining the option to fold to the shove from villian. I think that it just damages your tournament chances too much. I think that you should decide before you bet, if you are going to call a shove and then go with it.
 One reason that i went for the check option on the flop, apart from hoping to hit a 9, was that you may well get check-raised,  by  or similar, as well as aces or kings. You aren't in brilliant shape against the flush draw. Now you are in a situation where you are gambling, but having already put in about a third of your stack.
 Thanks for posting. It's an interesting spot.
 I look forward to hearing how others would handle this situation.

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Jam pre makes it all a lot easier.

This is true.

Also this is why Live players open shove 35bbs with KQ, 77, AT. Because they won't no where they are at.

Lol, not something I have seen too often. 35 bigs anyway! Although the other week in the 300 i witnessed a first level 11x UTG open, the guy gets it through for 75 chips then flips AK like he is gold. I folded 77. FML.
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2011, 03:20:16 PM »

I really dont like the idea of betting the flop whilst retaining the option to fold to the shove from villian. I think that it just damages your tournament chances too much. I think that you should decide before you bet, if you are going to call a shove and then go with it.
 One reason that i went for the check option on the flop, apart from hoping to hit a 9, was that you may well get check-raised,  by  or similar, as well as aces or kings. You aren't in brilliant shape against the flush draw. Now you are in a situation where you are gambling, but having already put in about a third of your stack.
 Thanks for posting. It's an interesting spot.
 I look forward to hearing how others would handle this situation.

+1

Jam pre makes it all a lot easier.

This is true.

Also this is why Live players open shove 35bbs with KQ, 77, AT. Because they won't no where they are at.

Lol, not something I have seen too often. 35 bigs anyway! Although the other week in the 300 i witnessed a first level 11x UTG open, the guy gets it through for 75 chips then flips AK like he is gold. I folded 77. FML.

it happens a lot deep in live comps. ridiculous shoves aplenty at DTD
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2011, 05:22:36 PM »

I was quite interested to see Dmorgans view (which I respect greatly) that he could only be flatting with AA/KK if he was a good player as my read at the time was pretty much the opposite that his range was something along the lines all pairs up to about tens and any two broadway cards and possibly suited connectors.    As such I thought if he shoved he was very likely to have a flush draw or a pair lower than mine as well.  I thought he would have played a jack a bit more straighforwardly but obviously this is part of his range.  I called.  He had 34o and hit an ace on the turn which is pretty much besides the point but I am still not sure whether it was a bad call or not outside of the vacuum of the individual hand.
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