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« on: April 21, 2011, 02:56:11 AM » |
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$350 WPT Deepstack Blinds 800-1600 Ante 200 35 Left 18 paid but very flat structure with 15% of field paid. I have a quite aggressive image but haven't shown down much. Villain seems pretty staightforward. We have 26k and raise to 3500 from the CO with   . BB playing about 42k calls. Flop comes    . BB checks. How do we play this from here? There is about 12k in then pot and we have 22.5k behind. |
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« Last Edit: April 21, 2011, 02:59:09 AM by redarmi »
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DMorgan
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 05:11:55 AM » |
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Can't really see any other viable options besides bet/folding ~7k and even that is pretty gross
Against someone good they should only have AA/KK as a flatting range here imo, peeling anything else seems really spewy
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 06:16:20 AM » |
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its actualy like 9.2k in the pot depending on how many players on the table.
i guess we can bet 4.3k and fold to resistance/check back turn, and either call/fold/check river depending on what cards come
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 08:31:52 AM » |
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Dmorgan why would you bet 7k? I'd be betting but much less
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 09:30:46 AM » |
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Shouldn't you just be shoving it all in pre flop in this situation? You probably lose all of your chips to an overpair on a low flop anyway. You also give yourself difficult decisions on a flop with overcards. It's an all in pre for me.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 10:39:40 AM » |
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Yeh isn't this just a shove pre? its 16bbs
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 11:26:50 AM » |
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As played, i think i would just check it back on the flop and try to hit a 9. I would re-evaluate on the turn, but would most likely be cutting my losses and folding to any further betting frfom the villian.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 12:00:22 PM » |
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its actualy like 9.2k in the pot depending on how many players on the table.
i guess we can bet 4.3k and fold to resistance/check back turn, and either call/fold/check river depending on what cards come
this. and follow the rage's plan and try to hit a 9  |
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2011, 12:06:26 PM » |
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depending on our image/opponent can we not b/c?
oh yeh and shove pre. its just easier
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outragous76
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2011, 12:07:43 PM » |
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Jam pre
A competent opponent should only flat AA KK but I'm gonna assume he is terrible!
Problem is AJ is right in the middle of his flatting range, but so are 66 77 88. As played I get it in and sigh if he has AJ
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 12:08:32 PM » |
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yeh im not bet/folding this flop
quite like shove pre if there are people under 35 left to act
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2011, 12:49:34 PM » |
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Juat assumed that the numbers in the OP were right
b/f 4.5k I think is gunna be the nut line vs this guy if he's bad cos he's not gunna ever play back with worse? Much prefer it now with a bigger stack:pot ratio
Jam pre is obv fine too, kinda goes without saying. In a live donkament though I'd always rather just open vs randoms
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redarmi
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2011, 01:29:22 PM » |
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Yeah my maths was wrong. It was nine handed so there was 9600 in the pot. I decided to bet 5200 and he thought for what seemed like ages and then shoved. Are we calling??
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2011, 01:50:31 PM » |
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Yep
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2011, 02:10:22 PM » |
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I really dont like the idea of betting the flop whilst retaining the option to fold to the shove from villian. I think that it just damages your tournament chances too much. I think that you should decide before you bet, if you are going to call a shove and then go with it. One reason that i went for the check option on the flop, apart from hoping to hit a 9, was that you may well get check-raised, by   or similar, as well as aces or kings. You aren't in brilliant shape against the flush draw. Now you are in a situation where you are gambling, but having already put in about a third of your stack. Thanks for posting. It's an interesting spot. I look forward to hearing how others would handle this situation. |
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