Semi-interesting spot

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I'm not sure if the dynamic makes much difference in this spot, but we've not been very active in this game. The same cannot be said for the rest of the table. Probably the most 3/4bets I've ever seen in a .50/£1 game. I lost a flip with JJ aipf about two hours prior to this hand and have been card dead since. Given this, I would expect anyone other than the OR or the shortstack to be savvy enough to know that I have a real hand here and definitely will not be peeling a decent raise.

This is the problem with Neil's suggestion of making it £29. This assumes that the shortstack will shove or the OR will 4bet, when realistically a raise that size in this game will yield five callers. Clearly there is merit to both calling or raising. Obv prefer raising as this gives us a shove/give up decision on the flop, which requires way less poker, and poker is hard sometimes. Of course we're in terrible shape against a 4bet ship from the OR, and I'm not going to 3bet-fold with all of that juicy dead money in there from the shortstack.

Also I feel like if we flat, we're defo not going to be playing a small pot anyways.

[EvilPie]

Who the fuck's Neil!!

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Whoops. It's only 'cause it didn't seem like a brilliant idea, figured it couldn't have been you.

[smashedagain]

Who the fuck's Neil!!

yes you defo look more like evilpie than neilpie. so now sean is saying that Giblin never has a brilliant idea.

[DMorgan]

its a defo call for me. AQ oop in a fishy game were no one is folding then the call has to be the correct line.

we don't want em to fold. even in the fishiest of 50/1 games I've never squeezed to 50 pre and got 8callers. you'll get one, two or perhaps three callers and from then on its fairly easy to play cos you either jam or give up depending on flop.

Putting in a third of your stack pre seems like a really bad idea when you're still having to flop decent equity to continue

Flatting pre keeps in all of the hands that you dominate and stacks aren't deep so you're not going to have a problem getting it all in by the river vs hands that you crush

Calling pre also happens to be a much lower variance line (not that this on its own is a reason for doing it) than pulling the old go and go.

[smashedagain]

its a defo call for me. AQ oop in a fishy game were no one is folding then the call has to be the correct line.

we don't want em to fold. even in the fishiest of 50/1 games I've never squeezed to 50 pre and got 8callers. you'll get one, two or perhaps three callers and from then on its fairly easy to play cos you either jam or give up depending on flop.

Putting in a third of your stack pre seems like a really bad idea when you're still having to flop decent equity to continue

Flatting pre keeps in all of the hands that you dominate and stacks aren't deep so you're not going to have a problem getting it all in by the river vs hands that you crush

Calling pre also happens to be a much lower variance line (not that this on its own is a reason for doing it) than pulling the old go and go.

yes this is what i think even if i dont make it clear... no need to panic tho coz i just noticed dan left gillingham 5 years ago so assume he is 22. probably almost gone at the game and over his peak now. did notice that moorman in his interview that he put his wsop success down to tightening up but his dad has been telling him this about live poker for ages.