are angleshooters welcome in the game?

[smashedagain]

i watched the last madrid episode last night and he did seem to have a lot of respected poker players from latin american in his corner as friends. his bird also looked like a right dirty sort and much younger than him. thought he was a complete tosser originally but then thought about the Alex situation and thought good luck to him. He won e1.6 million and do you think he gives a toss.

i also watched somewhere lucien someone from france win an ept and  the next tourney he was a right cock.

scotty nguyen winning the $50k mixed game was a bit disgusting as well.

The thing they have in common is they are winners.

[dik9]

And in reality, in the real world, the TD isn't employed by the players to protect the integrity of the game. The TD is employed by the venue to run the comp smoothly. And it's the venue who would be sued. So when dik9 is standing next to his employer in court passionately defending the honour of the game his gaffer is thinking WTF is this? Why have I got a mound of litigation to wade through and possibile liabilities? Why couldn't my TD be a super smooth guy with a silk tie and a pearly smile who just glides over and irons things out with a few choice words. All this TD's word is final sounds a bit power hungry to me and a dq should be a crazy last resort that you could 100% justify to a non-poker playing courtroom should that eventuality occur. TK is the nuts and after all factors were considered his actions were the nuts so other TD's should be learning from him and his thought process really.

This is entirely the reason you should play in a licensed venue! You know, the kind of place that is issued a license by magistrates.
If you are trying to imply I am power mad, you would be so far from the truth. I have stated earlier on in the thread that Rule 1 is very rarely used, but it is there for situations that are not covered by the rules for the Spirit of the game and fairness. (my biggest fault is I am too opinionated  lol)

I would be more worried about my job, if I didn't act. As all the other competitors have paid to play in an environment where they are protected.

I have also stated, that I have the utmost respect for TK but think IMO he handled this one wrong (this debate is on a number of forums and I haven't heard 1 TD say that it shouldn't be a penalty/ the degree of penalties ranges from one round to Dq) I could state reasons why possibly he  didn't penalise in this spot but it wouldn't be fair because he is not reading this to answer. I am sure due to the interest in this event, someone will ask him on record.

[MANTIS01]

And in reality, in the real world, the TD isn't employed by the players to protect the integrity of the game. The TD is employed by the venue to run the comp smoothly. And it's the venue who would be sued. So when dik9 is standing next to his employer in court passionately defending the honour of the game his gaffer is thinking WTF is this? Why have I got a mound of litigation to wade through and possibile liabilities? Why couldn't my TD be a super smooth guy with a silk tie and a pearly smile who just glides over and irons things out with a few choice words. All this TD's word is final sounds a bit power hungry to me and a dq should be a crazy last resort that you could 100% justify to a non-poker playing courtroom should that eventuality occur. TK is the nuts and after all factors were considered his actions were the nuts so other TD's should be learning from him and his thought process really.

This is entirely the reason you should play in a licensed venue! You know, the kind of place that is issued a license by magistrates.
If you are trying to imply I am power mad, you would be so far from the truth. I have stated earlier on in the thread that Rule 1 is very rarely used, but it is there for situations that are not covered by the rules for the Spirit of the game and fairness. (my biggest fault is I am too opinionated  lol)

I would be more worried about my job, if I didn't act. As all the other competitors have paid to play in an environment where they are protected.

I have also stated, that I have the utmost respect for TK but think IMO he handled this one wrong (this debate is on a number of forums and I haven't heard 1 TD say that it shouldn't be a penalty/ the degree of penalties ranges from one round to Dq) I could state reasons why possibly he  didn't penalise in this spot but it wouldn't be fair because he is not reading this to answer. I am sure due to the interest in this event, someone will ask him on record.

I think it was your comment along the lines of GTFO I would bounce his arse out the door without passing go which implied there would be personal satisfaction from yourself as a TD when bumping such a player from the comp. A soon as an independent hears that is the TD's thought process it would be very hard to argue the decision was completely neutral and in the interest's of the game. It looks like you are glad to dq him and if the TD is glad the decision becomes bias imo. Comments like that made you come across a bit power hungry so sorry if you're not.

[dik9]

I would be satisfied a player which has used me and used the rules to back up a stroke against other players numerous times was no longer in the tournament (wouldn't you be?). This would not be personal though, friends or enemies will be treated the same at the poker table.

[outragous76]

discussed on 2+2 pokercast this week with Matt Savage

confirmed would never without prior warning except for blatant cheating