JJ tough UTG spot

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haha jason. you're odd

hey i will put you down but never ever let you down. tough times dave reckon 2 months max and getting worse each day. try to be positive tho.

[George2Loose]

I am either trying to learn everything I can and understand or just trying to piss you off. It's defo  one or the other. I am afraid that I have caught the bug that is being sad and arguing on Internet forums.

You had your mental game sorted with help george and having a positive attitude has never been my problem.  It's obv helped as you say the results are coming but I only follow you on here for monte/deepstack or stars blogs and what I read it was same old same old big stack to dust but your are obv a lot happier when that happens nowadays.

This site should be a place of learning not only about poker but life experience too. I like to take the piss as much as the next person but I am also here to broaden my knowledge. I love Toby and Jake more than anyone in poker and would not have named my twins after them. But tbh it was race/toss up with them two or tikay n doyle

My style of play puts me in difficult spots. It's easy for you to fold every hand cos you're a nit and you know when people play back at you they have it.

I'd much rather play my way, enjoy it, have the occasional blow up but ultimately win comps rather then finish 8th 8th 6th 4th 12th etc

[Solaris]

am pleased no one responded to that last post. was bathing the kids at the time and did not want it to come over in the wrong way.  kids chucking jugs of water all over is quite stress full. this could easily be a case of trying to teach an old dog new tricks but here are a couple of examples of how my mind works.
1. i could not understand why winning players needed backing.
    this lead to jamie sykes dis owning me on facebook but it was not until dave explained to  me that you could be a winning player on the gukpt but did not have the roll for the ept but this was a way to play for this player.....fucking simple but i could not see it.
2. why someone would want to back a player because if they needed backing they were losers.
    once again lead to a mate telling me he had experienced a massive downswing/varience/table games and as it was a make up deal so effectivly little risk to the backer.
3. why is every ***** in make up and why would a player want to agree to be tied to this.
   .obv now know this is how it works. bink pay off then next comp you are back in again. i was thinking bordy puts me in the EPT london and i bink £1million. give him 50% so he gets £500k. next comp he puts me in a £500 ukipt i bubble say sorry but least you got half a mill last week .he just looks up at me, winks and says fuck you , you now owe me

sorry if my written word sometimes comes across badly but i laugh as much as i can in this life. we are here for a good time not a hard time

I think the way you look at backing/people being back is in such a ridiculously simplistic manner. I'm not actually sure what your view is on it anymore as in your above post you say you have seen why people want backing etc so I'm unsure whether you agree with it or not anymore.

I'm sure you've been told all about the positives and negatives of backing/being backed before so it's not worth raking up old graves.

As for the EPT example you've posted, do you not realise that you would never have won 1 million unless he put you into the tournament in the first place? Plus if you binked 500k you are probably more likely to use that as your bankroll and sell off action rather than be backed...

Don't want to speak for him, but I'm pretty sure Rupert Elder sells off his action rather than being backed and I personally think that's the smartest way to go about things, but its not always an option for everyone.

[smashedagain]

I am either trying to learn everything I can and understand or just trying to piss you off. It's defo  one or the other. I am afraid that I have caught the bug that is being sad and arguing on Internet forums.

You had your mental game sorted with help george and having a positive attitude has never been my problem.  It's obv helped as you say the results are coming but I only follow you on here for monte/deepstack or stars blogs and what I read it was same old same old big stack to dust but your are obv a lot happier when that happens nowadays.

This site should be a place of learning not only about poker but life experience too. I like to take the piss as much as the next person but I am also here to broaden my knowledge. I love Toby and Jake more than anyone in poker and would not have named my twins after them. But tbh it was race/toss up with them two or tikay n doyle

My style of play puts me in difficult spots. It's easy for you to fold every hand cos you're a nit and you know when people play back at you they have it.

I'd much rather play my way, enjoy it, have the occasional blow up but ultimately win comps rather then finish 8th 8th 6th 4th 12th etc

sorry george its just your turn.....8th 8th 6th 4th 12th....good point well made 

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=84288

 

unless you meant me then good point well made

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=134376


 

[George2Loose]

Few 1st's in there too mate

[smashedagain]

Few 1st's in there too mate

yes i know george. am just bitterly twisted atm and cant find another way to blow off . should go out for a run but that would kill me.

[smashedagain]

am pleased no one responded to that last post. was bathing the kids at the time and did not want it to come over in the wrong way.  kids chucking jugs of water all over is quite stress full. this could easily be a case of trying to teach an old dog new tricks but here are a couple of examples of how my mind works.
1. i could not understand why winning players needed backing.
    this lead to jamie sykes dis owning me on facebook but it was not until dave explained to  me that you could be a winning player on the gukpt but did not have the roll for the ept but this was a way to play for this player.....fucking simple but i could not see it.
2. why someone would want to back a player because if they needed backing they were losers.
    once again lead to a mate telling me he had experienced a massive downswing/varience/table games and as it was a make up deal so effectivly little risk to the backer.
3. why is every ***** in make up and why would a player want to agree to be tied to this.
   .obv now know this is how it works. bink pay off then next comp you are back in again. i was thinking bordy puts me in the EPT london and i bink £1million. give him 50% so he gets £500k. next comp he puts me in a £500 ukipt i bubble say sorry but least you got half a mill last week .he just looks up at me, winks and says fuck you , you now owe me

sorry if my written word sometimes comes across badly but i laugh as much as i can in this life. we are here for a good time not a hard time

I think the way you look at backing/people being back is in such a ridiculously simplistic manner. I'm not actually sure what your view is on it anymore as in your above post you say you have seen why people want backing etc so I'm unsure whether you agree with it or not anymore.

I'm sure you've been told all about the positives and negatives of backing/being backed before so it's not worth raking up old graves.

As for the EPT example you've posted, do you not realise that you would never have won 1 million unless he put you into the tournament in the first place? Plus if you binked 500k you are probably more likely to use that as your bankroll and sell off action rather than be backed...

Don't want to speak for him, but I'm pretty sure Rupert Elder sells off his action rather than being backed and I personally think that's the smartest way to go about things, but its not always an option for everyone.

sorry solaris i'm not suprised you are confused as my views change all the time atm. people assume that because i wear blackbelt patches for the last 10 months that i am backed by them on their belt scheme. this is not the case as i hAve pointed out before 50% wife, 5-10% chinese mate/s 3-5% dealers, 1-3% charity/donations means i cant give neil or blackbelt 50%. it was a private aggreement between me and them as i was winning sats for fun on other ipoker networks and agreed to take a shot at winning a sat into a foreign site (hence the $5 into $24k in marrakesh story). i believe very much in karma and thought that neil was one of the guys putting something back into poker and i had enjoyed his company numerous times in ireland.

yes i defo see the you wont play events outside your roll unless backed arguement but i thought that having given him his cut of half a mill that i am back in make up next comp was a little harsh, but thats life aint it.  see i dont know if probably more likely to use my half to roll myself is ethical either. do we not owe our backer some loyalty to stay with him for a while longer. do people not agree a length of time for the staking contract to run. once again i dont know. people fall out over cash if things are not clear cut black and white, prime example is pete linton/sam trickett i dont know the full story (i am not sure anyone other than sam and pete know) but i just see two lads that were once tight as, no longer having the time of day for each other which is a shame.

[Solaris]

Most staking deals are made in trust as far as I know. There's no written contract as such, you simply agree the terms and go from there. For arguments sake and to make things easy say you entered the EPT London as your first tourney under the deal and won 1,010,000 with the buying being 10,000. You'd pay them back the buyin then 50% of 1 mill. You decide to play on your own dime in future and walk away from the backer. Is it likely he's going to be annoyed at you having made him a cool 500k profit? Unlikely I would have thought.

I understand what you mean about it seeming ridiculous that you could make a guy 500k, then find yourself down 500 quid the very next week, but it's a business deal and the backer wouldn't be in the position he is were he to keep writing off tournament losses. It's why I couldn't possibly imagine being staked by a good friend. Could only imagine it has the ability to blow up in your face in the long run.

Then again I'm not expert on the subject.

Is there a thread about your Marrakesh story? Sounds like an interesting read.

Edit: Sorry for derailing your thread Craig.

[smashedagain]

yes sorry craig but welcome to blonde anyway....i think so that will be done by snoopy on blackbelt some where but i dont know how to find it. there is also some of my wedding stuff on stars but once again i dont have any . right step son jkust walked in so have to go pick the wife up from work

[Nit Tendencies]

    this lead to jamie sykes dis owning me on facebook

This is because I get put on monkey tilt when Lil Dave puts the Yorkshire Gold next to the Uncle Ben's.... I don't need anymore ammo for my tilt problems!

[smashedagain]

    this lead to jamie sykes dis owning me on facebook

This is because I get put on monkey tilt when Lil Dave puts the Yorkshire Gold next to the Uncle Ben's.... I don't need anymore ammo for my tilt problems!

Lol. I did not even know you were on here. I also posted on here somewhere about despite out not seeing eye to eye I had hoped you listened about getting your roll of tilt