Yeah cbet should be reaaaaaaally small on such a texture. I'd go 2300.
Followed by a 4-bet shove after villain raises or are you finding the fold button ?
2300 opens up his range to include more bluffs. The bet you made pretty much commits you and he should know this so he needs to be a bit tighter.
What fold button?
The fold button that floppy advocated of course.
I get it now, but....
I was wondering why everyone's insisting the c-bet should be so small because I'm quite happy to take this down here.
It's not as though I'm trapping with a monster.
But you've already decided that you're getting it in as you bet 4500 then shoved.
By betting smaller you allow him to c/r you with a few more hands that he may have otherwise folded because he thinks you're committed.
It's just to open up his range and allow him a few more bluffs. If we're snapping him off anyway we might as well tempt him in with a few more hands.
For example if he thinks he can get you to pass he's more likely to come in with semi bluffs such as 56 or 2 overs where he figures you'll probably pass but if you don't he has outs.
Your bet narrows his c/r range to 7x, 4x, over pairs and possibly 55 & 66. You only beat a few of these so you're likely to be behind. Unfortunately because you've bet so much you can't fold. By betting smaller you add a load of other hands to his range so suddenly you're 88 is ahead of what he might have and you can happily snap him off.
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