Next Fantasy League?

[tikay]

Well let's firstly focus on The Masters.

Ideas, proposals, suggestions, entry fee (if any), etc?

No good expecting Mere to know what the format is, he knows nothing about golf. In fact, he knows bugger all about bugger all, imo, & what he knows about spreadsheets I taught him.

That's effectively a double negative. Taken literally it seems to imply that I know something about nearly everything. Even with my over-inflated sense of self-importance, I couldn't claim that to be true. You're really too kind.

What you doing up @ this hour? Been watching cricket?

How did your Cricket bet go yesterday? You know, the one where you backed both teams to win.

[MereNovice]

Well let's firstly focus on The Masters.

Ideas, proposals, suggestions, entry fee (if any), etc?

No good expecting Mere to know what the format is, he knows nothing about golf. In fact, he knows bugger all about bugger all, imo, & what he knows about spreadsheets I taught him.

If you wanted a format that gave you a few different markets to pick from in the Masters instead of just the simple outright you could have something like a selection from each category below with a stake on each as we did with the Cheltenham comp.

Top US player
Top British Isle player
Top Continental Europe player
Top Aussie
Top Asian
Top South African
Top Debutant
Top senior player
Leader after round 1

There will be more too, the prob with doing that format is you probably can't also do the outright winner as a category as if you pick the say, Matt Kuchar to be top US and the winner then you get two lots of points for what is basically the same result if he wins the event. The good thing about splitting it that way is that there will be markets available on all those lists so even if you don't really follow golf but fancy a go you can see by the markets how strong each player is expected to be in each list.

Splitting the field into groups and picking one from each group with a scoring system is ok too but I think it's more fun when the odds are taken into account.

That seems simple enough.
I don't know much about this betting mallarkey but I'd guess that there aren't any official SPs for markets in golf tournaments. Therefore we'd need to choose a particular bookmaker and use the prices he has at a given time? I could publish a snapshot of the prices so that everyone has a fixed list to work from.
Also, presumably we'd want to offer the option of an each-way bet for the markets with bigger numbers of runners.

When are prices likely to be available because we'd need to make a list available with enough time for people to pick their selections.

Last year (and I'd guess every year) there were 99 entrants in The Masters. So a simple alternative (or addition) would be to create 10 groups (for example) of players based on prices and to have entrants pick one player from each group with the best aggregate finishing positions winning or something similar.

Either of these methods would be easy to run and should provide a decent sweat for the entrants but if there are any other options, it's all the same to me.

[MereNovice]

What you doing up @ this hour? Been watching cricket?

How did your Cricket bet go yesterday? You know, the one where you backed both teams to win.

It's such a lovely fresh morning it seemed a shame to waste it and the ducks on the Trent woke me.

As you well know, the two teams conspired to achieve a void market. I fully expect the CPS to get involved - it was clearly hinky.
How did your betting go yesterday?

[tikay]

What you doing up @ this hour? Been watching cricket?

How did your Cricket bet go yesterday? You know, the one where you backed both teams to win.

It's such a lovely fresh morning it seemed a shame to waste it and the ducks on the Trent woke me.

As you well know, the two teams conspired to achieve a void market. I fully expect the CPS to get involved - it was clearly hinky.
How did your betting go yesterday?

That jibe can be looked at 2 ways. 1-1, or 3-7.

[bobby1]

Well let's firstly focus on The Masters.

Ideas, proposals, suggestions, entry fee (if any), etc?

No good expecting Mere to know what the format is, he knows nothing about golf. In fact, he knows bugger all about bugger all, imo, & what he knows about spreadsheets I taught him.

If you wanted a format that gave you a few different markets to pick from in the Masters instead of just the simple outright you could have something like a selection from each category below with a stake on each as we did with the Cheltenham comp.

Top US player
Top British Isle player
Top Continental Europe player
Top Aussie
Top Asian
Top South African
Top Debutant
Top senior player
Leader after round 1

There will be more too, the prob with doing that format is you probably can't also do the outright winner as a category as if you pick the say, Matt Kuchar to be top US and the winner then you get two lots of points for what is basically the same result if he wins the event. The good thing about splitting it that way is that there will be markets available on all those lists so even if you don't really follow golf but fancy a go you can see by the markets how strong each player is expected to be in each list.

Splitting the field into groups and picking one from each group with a scoring system is ok too but I think it's more fun when the odds are taken into account.

That seems simple enough.
I don't know much about this betting mallarkey but I'd guess that there aren't any official SPs for markets in golf tournaments. Therefore we'd need to choose a particular bookmaker and use the prices he has at a given time? I could publish a snapshot of the prices so that everyone has a fixed list to work from.
Also, presumably we'd want to offer the option of an each-way bet for the markets with bigger numbers of runners.

When are prices likely to be available because we'd need to make a list available with enough time for people to pick their selections.

Last year (and I'd guess every year) there were 99 entrants in The Masters. So a simple alternative (or addition) would be to create 10 groups (for example) of players based on prices and to have entrants pick one player from each group with the best aggregate finishing positions winning or something similar.

Either of these methods would be easy to run and should provide a decent sweat for the entrants but if there are any other options, it's all the same to me.

yes, they both sound good, if you wanted to do the former we could just use Skybets list's which I guess will be available no later than the Tuesday of Masters week.

[Acidmouse]

someone will need to list all the players in the diff category then i am in.

[bobby1]

someone will need to list all the players in the diff category then i am in.

np mate, we can sort that no probs, one thing we need to decide is are we having say 1pt ew or 2 pts win using the Skybet prices or do we just want to award say 25 pts for the winner in each section, 10 for 2nd and 5 for 3rd.

[MereNovice]

There have been no recent comments on this.

I'd say the consensus seems to be that we have a competition similar to the one used for the Cheltenham festival (although it may get a bit humdrum if we do the same for Aintree).

I suspect that we will a have a small (but elite) group of entrants for a competition based on the US Masters.

I'll use the markets listed above but may add/remove/substitute markets depending on what suitable ones are available.

I will start a new thread on Saturday with the confirmed rules and instructions.

Since markets will only be available fairly late, we will have a small window for entries.

£25 entry seemed to work for the last competition so we will stick with that.


Any thoughts?

[bobby1]

Sounds good to me, anyone else fancy a go?

[MereNovice]

If anyone is interested in a competition for the Grand National meeting, I am happy to organise it.

We could use the same format and rules as for the Cheltenham competition but I'm open to any suggestions.

It starts Thursday so we need a swift indication of any interest.

[bobby1]

Sounds excellent mate, I'm in.

[tikay]

Yes please!

I would tentatively suggest you come up with a proposal, post it, we can agree the t & c's in advance, and off we go.

It is "very probable" that some added value would be available, too.

[MereNovice]

As far as I can see it is a three day meeting with seven races on each day. The BBC are showing the first five races each day (possibly more on the "red button").

I think that the rules in the first post of the following thread seem OK:
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57000.0

I'd welcome any input for ways to spice it up if anyone feels inclined.
If I've had no feedback by midday tomorrow, I'll start the competition thread.

[Karabiner]

I'm in for Aintree although I do feel that The National itself should count for more than just another race.

Just ignore me if you don't agree, I'm used to it.

[MereNovice]

I'm in for Aintree although I do feel that The National itself should count for more than just another race.

Just ignore me if you don't agree, I'm used to it.

I'm easy but you may need to whip up some support.

Is the National one of the bigger fields at the meeting and likely to have a bigger priced winner than many of the other races? If so, doesn't enhancing the points for this race mean that someone having a big win on this one race will have a substantial edge over the field?