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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 09:40:04 AM »

I think if you check the flop you will eventually lose the pot unless the villian is ultra passive and continues to check back, cbet is only way we can win here without our hand improving, cbet fold to re raise/cbet check fold turn and river if cbet gets called imo.
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 11:08:08 AM »

think pleno post sums this 1 up... we can deffinatly bet the flop for value and assume we are ahead when he flats, turn is one of the most disgusting cards for us which isnt a club, therefore c/f is probably best.
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2012, 09:47:15 AM »

Raise more pre, bet 50-60% pot on the flop (bet/folding since our overall equity vs a splashy pre flop peeler's flop raising range isnt great) and check fold turn.
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2012, 09:54:00 AM »

Raise more pre, bet 50-60% pot on the flop (bet/folding since our overall equity vs a splashy pre flop peeler's flop raising range isnt great) and check fold turn.

minning is fine imo, and the bet on the flop is >50% pot
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 05:12:34 PM »

I'd sometimes check this flop for pot control, we're never comfortable getting raised, but I guess that's more of a tactic for higher stakes mtts or vs regs for balance.

I meant check/fold the turn as played. Not checking flop then folding turn, checking flop to call/call most non c runouts.

been thinking a lot about the use of this line lately; it seems the standard for huge chunks of the midstakes 6max community.

Given that i never see someone balance the nutflush or top set with that line, best exploitive adjustment? i.e we open btn with 56s/99/JTs 120bb eff, tag 22/19/9 sb 3b, we defend. He check/calls J89ss oop.

was thinking of bet flop, checkback turn, overbet river (assuming they check all 3 streets) and do this with entire range given:- a) they never/rarely cr flop, b) we can rep a tonne of bad runouts for a 1pair hand c) they need to be good a much higher % of the time facing a river ob.


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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2012, 05:28:05 PM »

I'd sometimes check this flop for pot control, we're never comfortable getting raised, but I guess that's more of a tactic for higher stakes mtts or vs regs for balance.

I meant check/fold the turn as played. Not checking flop then folding turn, checking flop to call/call most non c runouts.

been thinking a lot about the use of this line lately; it seems the standard for huge chunks of the midstakes 6max community.

Given that i never see someone balance the nutflush or top set with that line, best exploitive adjustment? i.e we open btn with 56s/99/JTs 120bb eff, tag 22/19/9 sb 3b, we defend. He check/calls J89ss oop.

was thinking of bet flop, checkback turn, overbet river (assuming they check all 3 streets) and do this with entire range given:- a) they never/rarely cr flop, b) we can rep a tonne of bad runouts for a 1pair hand c) they need to be good a much higher % of the time facing a river ob.




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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2012, 07:02:21 PM »

Yeh I was thinking more on those lines. Don't think its appropriate here in this comp but yeh as a midstakes grinder I see/use this a lot.

@almartin merits of yr line over the old bb overbet jam?
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