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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2014, 10:57:29 PM »

id raise fold. we have tight unknowns, its the bubble and theres a woman behind. It should be profitable and our stack of 9 or 11 bbs plays pretty much the same, we basically have to fold into the money anyway.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2014, 11:15:27 PM »

id raise fold. we have tight unknowns, its the bubble and theres a woman behind. It should be profitable and our stack of 9 or 11 bbs plays pretty much the same, we basically have to fold into the money anyway.

really?

i should have just folded on reflection. i hadnt really considered even min cashing or grinding to a min cash at all so hadnt paid attention to my bubble strategy. it moved quite quick too from 43 to 38 players - should have thought about it more.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2014, 12:15:09 AM »

id raise fold. we have tight unknowns, its the bubble and theres a woman behind. It should be profitable and our stack of 9 or 11 bbs plays pretty much the same, we basically have to fold into the money anyway.

really?

i should have just folded on reflection. i hadnt really considered even min cashing or grinding to a min cash at all so hadnt paid attention to my bubble strategy. it moved quite quick too from 43 to 38 players - should have thought about it more.

It is a Nash shove, so don't think it is a big error even if ICM screws you up a bit.  I wouldn't beat myself up about it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2014, 01:31:15 AM »

id raise fold. we have tight unknowns, its the bubble and theres a woman behind. It should be profitable and our stack of 9 or 11 bbs plays pretty much the same, we basically have to fold into the money anyway.

really?

i should have just folded on reflection. i hadnt really considered even min cashing or grinding to a min cash at all so hadnt paid attention to my bubble strategy. it moved quite quick too from 43 to 38 players - should have thought about it more.

It is a Nash shove, so don't think it is a big error even if ICM screws you up a bit.  I wouldn't beat myself up about it.

no but like to be over critical if possible.
thanks for all your views. i;ll fold next time :-)
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2014, 02:07:02 AM »

cant really give an opinion here. need solid live reads to be shoving this weak, sometimes you can catch a real nice spot to jam atc, you might need a bit of dutch courage too! (:
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2014, 02:21:24 AM »

Fold, someone is gonna go nuts before you bust.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2014, 03:09:21 AM »

id raise fold. we have tight unknowns, its the bubble and theres a woman behind. It should be profitable and our stack of 9 or 11 bbs plays pretty much the same, we basically have to fold into the money anyway.

Tank minraise/tank fold. Like a boss.
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2014, 06:24:23 AM »

I raise folded off 12bbs in this. wasn't even bothered. You are highly unlikely to get exploited imo. if nitty behind I min raise fold. If likely to call wide then I open fold.
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2014, 11:54:42 AM »

Didnt even consider raise folding. I think also i actually had 5k less than initially posted so perhaps had just 10.5bbs. What would be the shortest bb stack you'd raise fold from? I think under 10 would be bad.

I am getting more and more annoyed at this shove now i think about it. Should have walked around the room and checked out short stacks and grinded like a pussy to 36th on reflection especially as i sattied my way in for ~£65.

However, if i shove and they all fold i wouldn't even have posted this so maybe its taught me a lesson. #resultsorientedftw
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2014, 09:22:39 PM »

Actually just rechecked todays date and was surprised it was still Feb.
Raise/folding from 10bbs with absolute junk  aftertiming 
Surely a level? Im guilty of folding down to less but not this particular act.
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2014, 12:33:16 AM »

I'd probs still r/f this off 9bbs vs described villains
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2014, 02:38:43 PM »

I'd probs still r/f this off 9bbs vs described villains

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2014, 11:21:46 PM »

Think I'd lean towards folding here but in reality if I'm sat there I'm opening because it's live and you see a hand once every 5 minutes.
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2014, 11:26:32 PM »

Think I'd lean towards folding here but in reality if I'm sat there I'm opening because it's live and its on the bubble so you see a hand once every 5 15 minutes.

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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2014, 03:10:25 AM »

raise/fold
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