Am i the worse??

[PathFinder]

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/7617984_9D5E56D25A

I figured Villian's Range on the river was weighted towards flushes and possible houses and i didnt think he would take this line with worse value hands.

So please flame away

[KarmaDope]

I probably 3-bet here (do we have HUD stats?) dependent on stats.

As played flop is fine, prefer flat over raise to try and keep BB in. Turn is effectively a brick so probably bet more on the turn for value as we are only losing to 55 or 22 here, he never has T5/T2 unless a complete maniac! Pot is 25k and effective stack is 32k so a bet of 13k here means if he calls and piles river its 19k into 70k, which means he bluffs less cos has no fold equity.

Tough river decision though, I would need stats for that but to be fair I have the nut trips on a board which has runner runner straight/flush on...I sigh call.

[The Squid]

Nicely played. You can't fold the river. At this buy-in level people do too many spewy/weird/bad things to fold getting this price.

Also no good player would take this line with any part of their range, so we know he's not a talented opponent and this makes it more of a call.

[PathFinder]

I probably 3-bet here (do we have HUD stats?) dependent on stats.

Turn is effectively a brick so probably bet more on the turn

Surely a brick turn is more reason to bet less???

HUD Stats on Villian 23/21/13 F3B: 81 (146 hands)

I felt he was a little to shallow to 3bet this particular hand from this position.

[rfgqqabc]

Nicely played. You can't fold the river. At this buy-in level people do too many spewy/weird/bad things to fold getting this price.

Also no good player would take this line with any part of their range, so we know he's not a talented opponent and this makes it more of a call.

Squidly spot on.

[KarmaDope]

I probably 3-bet here (do we have HUD stats?) dependent on stats.

Turn is effectively a brick so probably bet more on the turn

Surely a brick turn is more reason to bet less???

HUD Stats on Villian 23/21/13 F3B: 81 (146 hands)

I felt he was a little to shallow to 3bet this particular hand from this position.

(I play microstakes) With your hand I am behind to 4 combos of hands, 2 of which we can safely discount. I want all of his chips so I bet ~14k I reckon, because if he calls as I am expecting him to then we can comfortably get it in on the river for value.

Also if he is playing 23/21 over 140 hands I am 3-betting here in position.

[muckthenuts]

I probably 3-bet here (do we have HUD stats?) dependent on stats.

Turn is effectively a brick so probably bet more on the turn

Surely a brick turn is more reason to bet less???

HUD Stats on Villian 23/21/13 F3B: 81 (146 hands)

I felt he was a little to shallow to 3bet this particular hand from this position.

(I play microstakes) With your hand I am behind to 4 combos of hands, 2 of which we can safely discount. I want all of his chips so I bet ~14k I reckon, because if he calls as I am expecting him to then we can comfortably get it in on the river for value.

Also if he is playing 23/21 over 140 hands I am 3-betting here in position.

I think if we bet 14k on the turn we commit a few too many chips and eliminate the chance of him thinking he can take us off the hand. If we bet small on the turn (i felt like 7.8k was pretty cool) we can persuade worse to call giving a better price, induce a turn c/r bluffjam and still have enough behind to set up a natural river jam getting the rest in.

Also don't like 3betting pre, it'll usually just get worse to fold/better to continue while with stack sizes also potentially leaving us open to being 4b jammed on. I think seeing 3 cards in position is better instead.

[wazz]

I probably 3-bet here (do we have HUD stats?) dependent on stats.

As played flop is fine, prefer flat over raise to try and keep BB in. Turn is effectively a brick so probably bet more on the turn for value as we are only losing to 55 or 22 here, he never has T5/T2 unless a complete maniac! Pot is 25k and effective stack is 32k so a bet of 13k here means if he calls and piles river its 19k into 70k, which means he bluffs less cos has no fold equity.

Tough river decision though, I would need stats for that but to be fair I have the nut trips on a board which has runner runner straight/flush on...I sigh call.

Hand plays exceptionally well to flat in position and 3betting only serves to fold out dominated hands and keep in hands that dominate us. Making ourselves difficult to play against in position doesn't just mean being aggressive, it means being involved a lot with deceptive ranges. 3betting just because we can is a bad reason.

This is a good flop to c-bet for villain as there are no draws and not a huge number of made hands and as our flatting range contains a fair few medium pairs he can happily c-bet with two broadways and backdoors expecting them to be live fairly often. In these sorts of spots, instead of trying to keep the SB in - where facing a bet and a call on a dry board, his continuing range is very narrow - I like to make plays at the pot. In terms of balance, I'd like to click it back here with our hand vs a good to very good player, and would be cib-bluffing (with backdoors) vs a medium player. This is what's known as 'putting him in a coffin'.

So with no info vs villain nor info on what the buyin is I'd probably flat as a default and let him hit an over or barrel a backdoor or keep on betting his overpair for value, but I don't need much of a read of villain being thinking/aggro/good before I cib with our hand here.

[JGill_DTD]

Think he should get flush draws in on the turn. I can't ever find the fold button in this spot