Dont knock me...honest opinions please

[suzanne]

Nevermind all that, why are tickling sticks not allowed?

 MissHoolie : tickling sticks not allowed brw

On this site "that tickles" is down as my location. So when someone hovers over my name that is what comes up. A guy had made a comment about tickling me with his stick. There is always one  

[Wardonkey]

Thanks, I'm glad you've cleared that matter up for me!

[JungleCat03]

Good post JP.

23 suited is a tough hand to play as even the good hands you flop with it will often be 2nd best or extremely vulnerable.

It's been said before but the best way to play as a starter is to be tight.

Play a narrow range of premium hands and learn to play them well. The problem with playing tightly is often boredom. You want to get involved, not fold, fold, fold.

To counter this, take the time between your good hands to watch your opponents.

 What hands are they playing?
Do they seem to bluffing a lot?
Are they aggressive, passive, tight, loose, mental?

Picking up information when you are not in a hand is a really useful skill and one that will give you a real edge over other players who aren't as observant.

Keep posting hands. The urge to improve your game for me is the key to poker.

[tikay]

2-3? It's no different really to 3-9, or 6-Q, or even, whisper it quietly, 7-4. We get our litttle fave hands & we follow them slavishly because we once won a big pot with them. My advice is....DON'T. They will cost you a lot of money over the long term. Mess around with suited connectors by all means, but real junk must be saved for "free rides" in the BB, or "fun" comps.

Peeps like to say "ooh, I won with 7-4". Very nice. It's better to say "I won the comp". Or so I'm told.

Dump the junk!

[lazaroonie]

or even

"I chopped the comp"...


I'll get me coat....

[KeithyB]

Hi Suzanne,

Good advice so far and I’d like to offer my own opinion which might help as I’m also an inexperienced player but do play a lot of these low level sit and go's.

Folding this hand preflop is very sound advice.  Playing really low value suited connectors is fraught with danger. Very difficult to win with them or, perhaps more importantly, for inexperienced players it’s difficult to know that you’re winning with them. Finding out will probably cost chips!

Consider this hand of 2-3 suited. If they make a pair…there’s likely a bigger pair or better kicker.  If they make a set there could be a bigger set or again one with better kicker.If they make a straight it’s likely to be the lower end of it.  2-3 cannot be the high end of a straight.  If it makes a flush you might well come up against a higher flush especially if 4 of same suit comes on the board.  Maybe a slightly negative way of looking at it but one I believe will serve you well.

This leaves you looking to make a full house before you know that it’s likely you’re winning and of course they don’t come around very often..

If despite this you still want to play them ( little suited connectors) then consider your position on table. You might be happy to play them if it just costs a flat call but there are still 7 people here ( inc blinds ) to act behind you.  Any of these people could raise it up and do you want to call a raise with 2-3 suited.?

But having played this hand and getting to the position after the turn you are now faced with a raise of 200...so what to do next?

An important point here would be to consider what the other person(s) could have that would be beating you.  Yes 2 pairs is a good hand but at the moment you’re behind if either of the other players has……

AA, QQ, 33, 22, AQ, A3, A2, Q3, Q2 plus of course 45.

This represents a lot of danger, too much danger surely to risk your tournament life?  Bear in mind there has already been a bet and call after the turn, so the other two players are clearly still interested in the hand.

Also this list above doesn’t mention any hand on a flush draw ( hearts or diamonds ) who may also call your all in bet  ( this is a $3 tourny so could well happen )

Ok you have a flush draw too but you might hit it and still lose out to a bigger flush (unlikely but can’t be ruled out)

So to win this hand you probably need to hit a full house on river so odds are not with you here.

All in all surely too many danger signs here to make the big all-in move?

One final point to bear in mind that it is still very early days in this tournament  ( blinds only 20/40 still 7 mins to next level ) and you can easily afford to be patient.

There will undoubtedly be better opportunities to get your chips in than this!

Hope this helps.
Keith

[TightEnd]

Hi Suzanne,

Good advice so far and I’d like to offer my own opinion which might help as I’m also an inexperienced player but do play a lot of these low level sit and go's.

Folding this hand preflop is very sound advice.  Playing really low value suited connectors is fraught with danger. Very difficult to win with them or, perhaps more importantly, for inexperienced players it’s difficult to know that you’re winning with them. Finding out will probably cost chips!

Consider this hand of 2-3 suited. If they make a pair…there’s likely a bigger pair or better kicker.  If they make a set there could be a bigger set or again one with better kicker.If they make a straight it’s likely to be the lower end of it.  2-3 cannot be the high end of a straight.  If it makes a flush you might well come up against a higher flush especially if 4 of same suit comes on the board.  Maybe a slightly negative way of looking at it but one I believe will serve you well.

This leaves you looking to make a full house before you know that it’s likely you’re winning and of course they don’t come around very often..

If despite this you still want to play them ( little suited connectors) then consider your position on table. You might be happy to play them if it just costs a flat call but there are still 7 people here ( inc blinds ) to act behind you.  Any of these people could raise it up and do you want to call a raise with 2-3 suited.?

But having played this hand and getting to the position after the turn you are now faced with a raise of 200...so what to do next?

An important point here would be to consider what the other person(s) could have that would be beating you.  Yes 2 pairs is a good hand but at the moment you’re behind if either of the other players has……

AA, QQ, 33, 22, AQ, A3, A2, Q3, Q2 plus of course 45.

This represents a lot of danger, too much danger surely to risk your tournament life?  Bear in mind there has already been a bet and call after the turn, so the other two players are clearly still interested in the hand.

Also this list above doesn’t mention any hand on a flush draw ( hearts or diamonds ) who may also call your all in bet  ( this is a $3 tourny so could well happen )

Ok you have a flush draw too but you might hit it and still lose out to a bigger flush (unlikely but can’t be ruled out)

So to win this hand you probably need to hit a full house on river so odds are not with you here.

All in all surely too many danger signs here to make the big all-in move?

One final point to bear in mind that it is still very early days in this tournament  ( blinds only 20/40 still 7 mins to next level ) and you can easily afford to be patient.

There will undoubtedly be better opportunities to get your chips in than this!

Hope this helps.
Keith

 


post more sir, where've you been on this board? post more

[RED-DOG]

On a previous thread someone had said that it was the worse play he had ever seen

Well he obviously hasn't seen this thread

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=6430.0


I shudder to think how stupid that mod feels

[tikay]

Who WAS that Mod Tom?

[suzanne]

Hi Suzanne,

Good advice so far and I’d like to offer my own opinion which might help as I’m also an inexperienced player but do play a lot of these low level sit and go's.

Folding this hand preflop is very sound advice.  Playing really low value suited connectors is fraught with danger. Very difficult to win with them or, perhaps more importantly, for inexperienced players it’s difficult to know that you’re winning with them. Finding out will probably cost chips!

Consider this hand of 2-3 suited. If they make a pair…there’s likely a bigger pair or better kicker.  If they make a set there could be a bigger set or again one with better kicker.If they make a straight it’s likely to be the lower end of it.  2-3 cannot be the high end of a straight.  If it makes a flush you might well come up against a higher flush especially if 4 of same suit comes on the board.  Maybe a slightly negative way of looking at it but one I believe will serve you well.

This leaves you looking to make a full house before you know that it’s likely you’re winning and of course they don’t come around very often..

If despite this you still want to play them ( little suited connectors) then consider your position on table. You might be happy to play them if it just costs a flat call but there are still 7 people here ( inc blinds ) to act behind you.  Any of these people could raise it up and do you want to call a raise with 2-3 suited.?

But having played this hand and getting to the position after the turn you are now faced with a raise of 200...so what to do next?

An important point here would be to consider what the other person(s) could have that would be beating you.  Yes 2 pairs is a good hand but at the moment you’re behind if either of the other players has……

AA, QQ, 33, 22, AQ, A3, A2, Q3, Q2 plus of course 45.

This represents a lot of danger, too much danger surely to risk your tournament life?  Bear in mind there has already been a bet and call after the turn, so the other two players are clearly still interested in the hand.

Also this list above doesn’t mention any hand on a flush draw ( hearts or diamonds ) who may also call your all in bet  ( this is a $3 tourny so could well happen )

Ok you have a flush draw too but you might hit it and still lose out to a bigger flush (unlikely but can’t be ruled out)

So to win this hand you probably need to hit a full house on river so odds are not with you here.

All in all surely too many danger signs here to make the big all-in move?

One final point to bear in mind that it is still very early days in this tournament  ( blinds only 20/40 still 7 mins to next level ) and you can easily afford to be patient.

There will undoubtedly be better opportunities to get your chips in than this!

Hope this helps.
Keith

 

I think my problem is that I tend to be a bit tunnel visioned on the hands I put my opponents on. I usually play quite tight so when some one calls/raises I put them on a monster hand.

To explain my train of thoughts...

After the flop I had put matey 1 + 2 on either A rag (maybe 2 or 3 but hopefully not), pk pair or a flush draw. I still believed I was ahead.

When came on the turn I realized I could be in trouble as AQ or QQ had me beat and also ANY red card could hit a flush and so I went all in representing AQ/QQ and hopping to scare off any pk pair or flush draw as I did not think the AA was out there either.

My mistake was not even considering 45 as this hand would be a fold to most players but of course they were both on the blinds...dooooh

I think as Junglecat said I play these hands through boredom though I dont have that excuse in this case as it was only the second hand 

Funnily enough in the game I have just played I looked up to see 23 suited "Oh no" I thought, so with a shaking hand I clicked the fold button. Flop comes up 332 ARRRGGGHHH...turn rag...river A...3 way allin pot and matey boy turns over his AA