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« on: March 29, 2015, 11:48:38 PM »

Hi,
 so I was looking at over my entire cash database on HEM2 (260k hands) at the micros and some lines that I've been taking - whether they are profitable or not.

 Here's a few that surprised me, and my reasons for it surprising me:

1, ISO raises only profitable at A6s+,J10+ and 55+
 -I was under the influence that it is best to ISO raise very wide IP - even down to any K, most or any 2 gapper unsuited connectors e.g 97, 64 etc (anything playable)

2, Cbetting with air - hugely non profitable?!
 -This one really surprised me, with straight or flush draws its profitable but not with nothing. I've always thought that at the micros you should c-bet 75%+ of the time at the micros - yes this does depend on the player and board texture etc but to unknowns surely it should be most of the time?

3, Raising preflop - profitable most of the time
 - Basically most playable hands IP are overall profitable for me, hands as low as any suited connectors, 2 gappers, most 3 gappers or any 10

 Would love to hear some opinions on these results - especially the cbet one.

 Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 12:17:12 AM »

Hi,
 so I was looking at over my entire cash database on HEM2 (260k hands) at the micros and some lines that I've been taking - whether they are profitable or not.

 Here's a few that surprised me, and my reasons for it surprising me:

1, ISO raises only profitable at A6s+,J10+ and 55+
 -I was under the influence that it is best to ISO raise very wide IP - even down to any K, most or any 2 gapper unsuited connectors e.g 97, 64 etc (anything playable)

2, Cbetting with air - hugely non profitable?!
 -This one really surprised me, with straight or flush draws its profitable but not with nothing. I've always thought that at the micros you should c-bet 75%+ of the time at the micros - yes this does depend on the player and board texture etc but to unknowns surely it should be most of the time?

3, Raising preflop - profitable most of the time
 - Basically most playable hands IP are overall profitable for me, hands as low as any suited connectors, 2 gappers, most 3 gappers or any 10

 Would love to hear some opinions on these results - especially the cbet one.

 Thanks.

Not surprises at all about no2. Have no idea why you think you should be cbetting with air anywhere near that often. Micros is about getting good hands paid off. They aint folding so why bother bluffing so often
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 01:04:58 AM »

What are we playing here? Tournaments/sngs/6max cash etc?
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 07:38:47 PM »

What are we playing here? Tournaments/sngs/6max cash etc?

Sorry cash, mainly 6 max but some FR too
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