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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2017, 04:36:31 PM »


The mantra of successive Governments that they are out to look after hard working families is utter bullshit.  The gap between the richest and the poorest is widening all the time. 


no it isn't. i am not digging out the stats but there is plenty to suggest inequality is at its lowest for 20 years.

"In 2010, while the top 10% received 31% of all income, the bottom 10% received just 1%7. In terms of wealth, in 2010 (the latest year for which data is available), 45% of all wealth in the UK was held by the richest 10%. The poorest 10% held only 1%."



I might be totally wrong here, but wouldnt this be the case across the entire planet? Not much point making a point of it in the UK if its just the standard way the world works

Standard doesn't equal good and the UK is worse when compared to other Western European countries. Countries such as Finland have managed to find ways to either stop the inequality increasing or make things more equal.

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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2017, 05:40:44 PM »

and what about poker winnings? Pro who grinds for a living binks £350k in a WSOP event, and is expected to give 200k back?

I don't think your getting it or know the background here. 

I said I would support a maximum employed wage of £150,000 - I don't think capping is a bad idea. 

Thank fuck for that. I thought you were after my £7M a year dividend as well.

That's cool then. Cap the bit that I have to pay most tax on so I have to get the rest through some kind of legal loophole.

I fully support your equality plan now.
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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2017, 06:09:59 PM »


The mantra of successive Governments that they are out to look after hard working families is utter bullshit.  The gap between the richest and the poorest is widening all the time.  
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no it isn't. i am not digging out the stats but there is plenty to suggest inequality is at its lowest for 20 years.

"In 2010, while the top 10% received 31% of all income, the bottom 10% received just 1%7. In terms of wealth, in 2010 (the latest year for which data is available), 45% of all wealth in the UK was held by the richest 10%. The poorest 10% held only 1%."

https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/how-has-inequality-changed

Lowest in twenty years doesn't mean the situation is good! I would also argue it hasn't lowered particularly in the last ten years but stayed quite flat. Our Gini coefficient has decreased slightly but is still extremely high. I would also add I think inequality between the top 10% and the bottom 10% increases rapidly ever year.

Boorish thread, again ruined by the political thread expanding and someone being criticized for views which are different.

I wouldn't keep the money I don't think. I'm not sure I wouldn't be able to help myself from siphoning off enough to have a good time but I think my life happiness post stealing 20 million probably isn't much better than my current life. I don't value money too highly but I do value my own values. It probably is drug money too so good to avoid any press and freeroll some sort of reward.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, mine happens to be that the idea of capping income at £150k is laughably ridiculous.

Each to their own though.
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2017, 06:22:55 PM »

and what about poker winnings? Pro who grinds for a living binks £350k in a WSOP event, and is expected to give 200k back?

I don't think your getting it or know the background here. 

I said I would support a maximum employed wage of £150,000 - I don't think capping is a bad idea. 

Thank fuck for that. I thought you were after my £7M a year dividend as well.

That's cool then. Cap the bit that I have to pay most tax on so I have to get the rest through some kind of legal loophole.

I fully support your equality plan now.


I think thats the point, same reason why communism can never work in real life. People get too greedy. Cap it at £150k and people just start getting paid in cash more, or companies find ways around it, as the most skilled people would still demand a premium. could just make business more shady.
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« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2017, 06:38:14 PM »

and what about poker winnings? Pro who grinds for a living binks £350k in a WSOP event, and is expected to give 200k back?

I don't think your getting it or know the background here.  

I said I would support a maximum employed wage of £150,000 - I don't think capping is a bad idea.  

Thank fuck for that. I thought you were after my £7M a year dividend as well.

That's cool then. Cap the bit that I have to pay most tax on so I have to get the rest through some kind of legal loophole.

I fully support your equality plan now.


I think thats the point, same reason why communism can never work in real life. People get too greedy. Cap it at £150k and people just start getting paid in cash more, or companies find ways around it, as the most skilled people would still demand a premium. could just make business more shady.

Capping income is ridiculous because you limit the tax take.  So the end result is there is less money for education, welfare, pensions and the NHS.  Pretty much all the stuff that helps the poor more than the rich.

Just get a proper progressive tax system without all the kinks for NI, child, benefit, 100k etc.  Also put corporation tax back up you clowns.  

Taking away people's incentive to work completely is crazy and simultaneously letting fools gamble away their spare money in the hope of winning millions is crazy too.

And FWIW the BNP had a fair few left wing policies.  Wouldn't be surprised if there was a wage cap in there.  Pretty sure they pretty keen on putting stuff under state control.  UKIP are way further to the right.

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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2017, 07:41:29 PM »


The mantra of successive Governments that they are out to look after hard working families is utter bullshit.  The gap between the richest and the poorest is widening all the time. 


no it isn't. i am not digging out the stats but there is plenty to suggest inequality is at its lowest for 20 years.


"In 2010, while the top 10% received 31% of all income, the bottom 10% received just 1%7. In terms of wealth, in 2010 (the latest year for which data is available), 45% of all wealth in the UK was held by the richest 10%. The poorest 10% held only 1%."



I might be totally wrong here, but wouldnt this be the case across the entire planet? Not much point making a point of it in the UK if its just the standard way the world works

I dont agree with the socilast view point but i also wouldnt stand by the view "everyone else is doing it so its ok". Being forward thinking surely is the way forward and learning from mistakes from the past.

Amen!
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2017, 07:45:19 PM »

and what about poker winnings? Pro who grinds for a living binks £350k in a WSOP event, and is expected to give 200k back?

I don't think your getting it or know the background here.  

I said I would support a maximum employed wage of £150,000 - I don't think capping is a bad idea.  

Thank fuck for that. I thought you were after my £7M a year dividend as well.

That's cool then. Cap the bit that I have to pay most tax on so I have to get the rest through some kind of legal loophole.

I fully support your equality plan now.


I think thats the point, same reason why communism can never work in real life. People get too greedy. Cap it at £150k and people just start getting paid in cash more, or companies find ways around it, as the most skilled people would still demand a premium. could just make business more shady.

Capping income is ridiculous because you limit the tax take.  So the end result is there is less money for education, welfare, pensions and the NHS.  Pretty much all the stuff that helps the poor more than the rich.

Just get a proper progressive tax system without all the kinks for NI, child, benefit, 100k etc.  Also put corporation tax back up you clowns.  

Taking away people's incentive to work completely is crazy and simultaneously letting fools gamble away their spare money in the hope of winning millions is crazy too.

And FWIW the BNP had a fair few left wing policies.  Wouldn't be surprised if there was a wage cap in there.  Pretty sure they pretty keen on putting stuff under state control.  UKIP are way further to the right.



The BNP had plenty good policies that would have put some on the left to shame.  But when you tie that up with racism the game is a bogey.
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