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Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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Do you feel Spurs should be given a replay?
Yes,
6 (16.2%)
No,
29 (78.4%)
Undecided
2 (5.4%)
Total Voters: 37
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Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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Mr Dave Richards
Chairman
The FA Premier League,
30 Gloucester Place
London
W1U 8PL
9 May 2006
Dear Dave
Re: Protest and request for the match between West Ham United and Tottenham Hotspur FC on 7/5/06 to be replayed
As you are aware, Sunday could have been a momentous day for our Club and our fans. It was the first time since the inception of the UEFA Champions League that we were in a position to qualify for European club football’s most prestigious competition. After such a successful League campaign, the excitement and expectation of our fans was simply enormous. Our match at West Ham was effectively a Cup Final.
However, we believe that our chances of success were significantly reduced by the exceptional circumstances brought about by the sudden illness of the majority of players in our First Team squad in the early hours of Sunday morning. In being given no viable option to postpone the match other than a 2-hour delay to kick-off, our players were denied the possible opportunity of competing in the Champions League, while our fans have been left with a sense of suspicion and injustice at the way subsequent events unfolded.
We contacted the FAPL early on Sunday morning and, after a series of conversations, the FAPL called for the England Team Doctor and the FAPL Company Secretary to attend our Team Hotel to assess the situation. We believed that the FAPL were examining the situation in good faith and were seeking to obtain all relevant information before coming to a decision. Indeed, in those early conversations the FAPL’s Chief Executive had given us every reason to believe the match could be postponed to allow our players some extra time to recover from a lack of sleep, vomiting, diarrhoea and dehydration.
At this time, myself, Board members and other key decision makers joined the players at their hotel. Whilst waiting for the opinion of the England Team Doctor, who was yet to arrive at our Team Hotel, I was contacted from a distance by the FAPL and told that we had to play the game that day or suffer the consequences. This, by implication, may have meant a significant loss of points and the denial of participation in any European competition – a situation I could not sanction. This threat was made by the FAPL despite the fact that West Ham United, acting honourably and fairly as would be expected from that club, had consented to the postponement of the match provided that any re-match did not interfere with their FA Cup Final preparations.
The FAPL’s Chief Executive then said he would consider the match being delayed to later on Sunday evening, but unfortunately the Police would not sanction a kick off time beyond 5pm. Our medical staff advised that a delay of at least 3 hours would be necessary to have any impact on the players and therefore it was Martin Jol’s view that, in the absence of a postponement or a much later kick-off, we had no choice whatsoever but to proceed to play at 3pm. What puzzles us is why the FAPL were prepared to sanction a 4 hour delay but not a 24 hour delay. If the integrity of all matches kicking off at the same time was your primary concern, why sanction a delay of any kind?
Our next issue was team selection. Martin Jol and his staff, having originally selected their squad of 17 players for the match, were then left in the invidious position of choosing between starting the match with their original 17 players, 10 of whom were feeling very unwell, or drafting in Reserve Team players, the majority of whom have not played for the First Team this season or are untried and untested at First Team level. In any case, having ended their season, our Reserve Team players were scattered across various parts of London and the South East, would not have been prepared to play in a Premier League (or any other) match at such short notice and would rarely, if ever, have played together.
This was an impossible position for our coaching staff to find themselves in on the morning of what was our most important match for many years. Playing a make-shift, inexperienced and ill-prepared team in such a high profile game could have turned the match into a farce, resulting in an embarrassment for the players, the coaches, the Club, our fans and the Premier League competition as a whole.
To add insult to injury, the FAPL’s announcement that our game would not be postponed was made live on Sky TV from the pitch side at Highbury. In light of the obvious sensitivities and the competition for 4th place between Arsenal and Spurs this was, to say the least, an unfortunate choice.
We simply do not understand why the FAPL failed to appraise itself of all of the facts before turning down our request that the fixture be postponed under rule E 13.4. We were surprised that the FAPL’s Chief Executive did not make the short journey from Highbury to the Team Hotel at Canary Wharf to assess such a serious issue first hand. We also fail to understand why the England Team Doctor, having been sent to the Team Hotel, was not even consulted before an announcement was made (in fact, he did not even arrive at our hotel before the decision was made or even before our players had to leave the Team Hotel to travel to Upton Park for the match). As a result we played the game with players who were unwell but who were desperate not to let their fans and colleagues down. Clearly, our governing body put us in an impossible situation and gave a significant advantage to Arsenal in competing for that 4th position.
With this in mind we contacted those Premier League Chairmen and Chief Executives we were able to locate to establish what fellow members feel is an appropriate way forward given the unorthodox decision made by the FAPL prior to receiving objective information on the situation. We now have confirmation from a majority of Premier League clubs that they would support a replay and in similar circumstances would expect the game to have been postponed. This is a gesture made by fellow clubs which supports the Charter’s aims of running a professional league in a manner in which all of its member Clubs are treated equally and in a professional, fair and objective way. Additionally, from comments made by Sepp Blatter in the media in the past 24 hours, even FIFA would support the idea of a postponement provided the match was played on or before 15 May 2006.
We therefore formally request that you order that the game be replayed.
It is regrettable that we have been put in this position, but we feel let down by the FAPL’s abdication of its responsibility to consider the request for a postponement fairly and after due consideration of all relevant factors. Where such significant commercial and competitive interests are jeopardised it is only reasonable that our governing body ensures we play on a level playing field and supports us by making decisions based on the facts of the situation which has to include all relevant information. We feel sure that the FAPL, along with most reasonable minded people, would not have wanted such a controversial outcome to the final day of the Premier League season. Furthermore, the FAPL was inconsistent in its approach in being prepared to consider the kick-off to be delayed but not allowing the match to be played on a different day.
Finally, whilst our primary concern here is for our own Club, the situation we find ourselves in highlights what could have been an even bigger issue for a Club facing relegation from the FAPL. Similarly, it is hard to believe that, faced with an identical issue on the morning of a Champions League Final, a club would not seek a postponement (with the opposing team consenting) and that, given the importance of such an occasion, such a request would not be granted by UEFA in the interests of fairness and good sporting practice. In our view, and regardless of the outcome of our case, the FAPL’s decision making process and lines of communication in such a situation need thorough and urgent review in order to ensure that no other club is similarly disadvantaged in the future.
Yours sincerely
DANIEL LEVY
Chairman of Tottenham Hotspur
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Re: Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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May 09, 2006, 11:53:59 PM »
Yes I definately think they should be given a replay- makes u wonder if the chef was gooner?
lol but in honesty I dont think it matters cuz I think Arsenal will win the champions league,
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not a chance.
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Re: Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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May 10, 2006, 12:04:18 AM »
If they won the pot, a request from the winner that the hand shouldn't be counted would be somewhat unlikely.
Calling over the Tournament Director after the hand has concluded seems like a bit of an easy ruling. The hand stands.
If there was some sort of reason not to play the hand, you need to call over the tournament director before it's conclusion for your case to hold water.
Elsewise you would have been free-rolling for 90 minutes (lost sight of my analogy - arrest me) that wouldn't be fair on every other side in the league.
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Re: Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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May 10, 2006, 12:48:10 AM »
ah but if the tournament director tells you you have to play the hand or are out of the tournament even tho u dont really want to play your 52os then thats rather unfair isnt it and surely against the rules.
They did in effect call over the 'tournament director' and were forced into playing the game or face the consequences which was rather unfair and unsporting-theres no chance they will get it tho- the gunners are a far more powerful team in the EPL and therefore have more weight behind them in arguments- in other words Arsenal will simply say-we own u bitch and u aint getting a replay-what we say the F.A will decide.
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Re: Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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May 10, 2006, 01:13:35 PM »
Yes Arsenal would like replays as well for all the times Thierry Henry was out. And what about when we had to use our 8th choice left back for 10 games.
I'm sure West Ham would be overjoyed replaying the match, especially with the FA cup final on their minds.
Perhaps they should replay it, but Spurs docked 3 points like Boro were.
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Re: Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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Quote from: Hairydude on May 10, 2006, 12:48:10 AM
ah but if the tournament director tells you you have to play the hand or are out of the tournament
even tho u dont really want to play
your 52os then thats rather unfair isnt it and surely against the rules.
They did in effect call over the 'tournament director' and were forced into playing the game or face the consequences which was rather unfair and unsporting-theres no chance they will get it tho- the gunners are a far more powerful team in the EPL and therefore have more weight behind them in arguments- in other words Arsenal will simply say-we own u bitch and u aint getting a replay-what we say the F.A will decide.
It really isnt a question of if you want to play... its more a game of everyone all in blind, you cant say I dont want to!
I voted no by the way... thou if Arsenal win next wednesday then I'd tell them they came play on the Saturday after!
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Apparently police have raided the kitchens of the Marriott hotel in search of what may have caused this unfortunate incident.
Unfortunately all the evidence they have found so far concerning food is hard cheese and sour grapes......
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Re: Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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Nice one
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Re: Poll: Spurs officially ask for West Ham replay.
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May 10, 2006, 04:31:33 PM »
No
If they felt so harshly treated by the decision to play the game they should have refused to play.
That would have put the cat amongst the pigeons
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Quote from: Teacake on May 10, 2006, 04:31:33 PM
No
If they felt so harshly treated by the decision to play the game they should have refused to play.
That would have put the cat amongst the pidgeons
Exacty. The Lasagne is getting tested in a Lab just now.
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Quote from: Teacake on May 10, 2006, 04:31:33 PM
No
If they felt so harshly treated by the decision to play the game they should have refused to play.
That would have put the cat amongst the pidgeons
i agree, if they had said no we cant play and didnt they might of got more sympathy but to play with pretty much their stongest team and then complain about it after they lost is just ridiculas.
i havent seen the excact team spurs put out but i heard they made 2 changes from the side that beat bolton,one of those was an injury too, and to have danny murphy sat on the bench shows they couldnt be that bad. im not sure if that was the team / bench it was what i heard, i didnt get home from arsenal until 1.30am that day and spent most of the next day in bed.
just give them the replay and let west ham beat them again
and then see if they can get another game replayed until they win
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Quote from: bobby1 on May 09, 2006, 11:55:01 PM
not a chance.
11/4 must be rather a skinny price for a no-hoper then.
I hope I get to remind you of that comment afterwards when I open the champers
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Quote from: Teacake on May 10, 2006, 04:31:33 PM
No
If they felt so harshly treated by the decision to play the game they should have refused to play.
That would have put the cat amongst the pigeons
If they had refused to play then they would have lost the game, that is the rule.
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