Tribeca 20k deepstacked AK

[Royal Flush]

cheers, nice post.

Like i said i did push he did call, with KQ

I was expecting 77 rather than KQ, a bit of a danger hand for him to call against a big stack OOP

[The Baron]

I'd raise everytime here. If he has KQ good luck to him. He'll need it.

[Royal Flush]

I'd raise everytime here. If he has KQ good luck to him. He'll need it.

Funny....those were my words, followed by "if it just comes K hi that muppet stacks off to me"

[Highstack]

I would be pushing because I think I am good right now. Your oppo played KQo out of position preflop and you can't read that easily.  I would be prepared to put them to the test and make them pay for any draws.

My best guess would have been he also had AK and was a split pot. A bit unlucky mate and regardless of what some may say, I think that many of us could easily go broke here.

[clayftknight]

there is no reason to raise, just call.

If he is ahead you don't want to raise, if you are ahead you don't want to scare him off you want him to bet it for you.
If he is drawing you want him out on the turn not the flop.

So just call.

[Royal Flush]

So if i call there is 15k in there and i have 15k back, the turn comes an offsuit 9, he bets again, i pass?

[Sunday8pm]

i think over 50% of the time your ahead.

so push, enough in the pot to push instead of raising to 9k or whatever, because that is committing yourself to a re raise anyway.

pushing also might entice AQ/JJ etc to call whereas raising to 9k looks too strong

[clayftknight]

no, you move all in on the turn...............usually.
On the turn it will depend on several factors but usually all in.
Somtimes you lose, but long term this is more profitable than raising on the flop because you let him off the hook when he is behind and only have company when you are beat.
On the turn you are more likely to have hooked a hand and less likely to hook a draw.

[Sunday8pm]

too may different cards can come on the turn to make me pass to any bet.

i think you can entice calls from weaker hands with an all in bet on the flop...

and if your pushing on the turn,

a; your opponent may have made a stronger hand

b; your hand looks much stronger

[clayftknight]

too may different cards can come on the turn to make me pass to any bet.

i think you can entice calls from weaker hands with an all in bet on the flop...

and if your pushing on the turn,

a; your opponent may have made a stronger hand

b; your hand looks much stronger

turn cards may scare him also.
his stronger hand may still be behind yours, also the turn may make your hand stronger so this is irrelevant.
Bottom line is..................with 1 card to go the guy on a draw is less likely to be calling and the guy with a ahnd is more tied in to the pot than he was because the pot is now as big as your stack.

[SupaMonkey]

If he comes out betting big on the turn then i fold unless i improve. If he doesn't then i would min raise him, (i believe it would look strong, he has to think the flop helped me somehow). If he reraises me there i'm beat. if he calls then leads into me on the river i'm beat. It's the only to escape the situation with some chips. I said earlier that i would be worried about him being ahead here (i.e. two pair or a set) and i don't think he is likely to lay his hand down on the river. I would check behind him if he checked to me on the river.

The point is that he isn't bluffing, unless he's a moron. His flop bet could be a probe bet and once you call he's only betting if he thinks he's ahead.

[Royal Flush]

Sunday/Clay both very good points of view, and i often play both styles in this kind of hand.

[clayftknight]

Sunday/Clay both very good points of view, and i often play both styles in this kind of hand.

Very wise.

[Sunday8pm]

like flushy says though.

theres 15k in the pot, and he has 15k behind, no need to get cute here in my opinion.

[clayftknight]

I agree, that is why you move on the turn.
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