Barrera

[Sark79]

Did anyone see the fight with Marco Antonio Barrera and Rocky Juarez?   It is amazing how many controversial mistakes are made in boxing

Did anyone catch the name of the unbeaten fighter on the support bill?  He has won 20 from 20.  He looked very impressive.

[lvlarc_uk]

Yeh I caught it, great last few rounds MAB has been in some amazing wars, true warrior, what do you mean by controversial mistakes?

I was shocked at draw, thought Barrera won it by 2 rounds, the Sky commentators were abit pro Rocky mind you, what were their final scorecards?


Oh also, it's been reported on fightnews.com that the scorecards were added up wrongly, instead of the 114-114, it was changed to 115-114 for Barrera, so Marco won a split decision.

[Sark79]

Oh also, it's been reported on fightnews.com that the scorecards were added up wrongly, instead of the 114-114, it was changed to 115-114 for Barrera, so Marco won a split decision.

The mistake with the scorecards.  There have been alot of fights over the last few years where scores have been added up wrongly. I wasn't meaning just this fight.  Wasn't there a Lewis fight when a lady judge added her card wrongly.

[lvlarc_uk]

Ah right, didn't think you knew about the card error, thought you were talking about the decision, ie you thoguht Rocky won.

Yeh it's a stupid error really, not done just by judges though, see the judges hand in their scorecards between each rounds to a the commision rep, who then writes them onto the master score sheet. Heres the master score sheet for the fight.

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Not sure how that happened on final round scoring, bit strange. Oh yeh I remember the messup in Lewis-Holyfield fight right? The woman gave it to Holyfield by mistake making it a draw, in rematch all 3 judges were men and it worked out fine 

Also Manny Pacquiao's draw to Marquez few years back, the judge who made it even didn't realise to score the first round 10-6 cause of 3 knockdowns, instead scored it 10-7 so her total fkup lost Pacman the fight, or drew it even. Stupid mistakes really, don't happen often tho thankgod.

[Sark79]

Not sure how that happened on final round scoring, bit strange. Oh yeh I remember the messup in Lewis-Holyfield fight right? The woman gave it to Holyfield by mistake making it a draw, in rematch all 3 judges were men and it worked out fine 

no comment. Its safer that way 


Do you think that if it goes to the judges, they could discuss it between themselves and make a decision that way over who the winner was?   I heard an ex boxer say this idea during a radio broadcast of a Tyson fight a couple of years ago. He felt that by the three judges coming to a decision over who won the fight, it would prevent dodgy scorecards decisions.

[GlasgowBandit]

I must be watching different fights from a few on here.  I thought Rcky was the winner of the fight, he landed with the cleaner punches and put in more work.  MAB had some flourishes late on in the round, but he never looked at all comfortable after his nose cut and he never seemed to put Rocky under much pressure.

I don't agree that after the fight and the result has been announced that they can say the scorecards wheer added up wrongly it should be a straight rematach, anyone think this is a bit fishy?  A "mistake" being rectified so that MAB enver had a draw on his record?

The wee Japanese fellow whow as fighting the American based Mexican was way out his depth!

[Sark79]

You might have a point mate about the change of decision.  It was a very tough fight though.  Did you catch the name of the undercard fighter?   He will be a big name one day I think.

[Sark79]

What about the Williams and Kahn fights?   anyone see them

[bolt pp]

saw the highlights of kahn, he won 5 rounds with one being a draw.

the guy gave him a good workout and caught him a couple of times.

williams stopped his man with a cut eye and he didnt come out for the fourth, out classed him in a lathargic way!! as williams usualy does.

mcgee got trounced by takaloo, clear points victory(although one judge gave it as a draw)!

[Sark79]

I like Takaloo, but he sometimes  makes hard work of it.  I remember Brendan Ingle once saying he was as talented as Naz.

[bolt pp]

you'll probably not be surprised to know then that i dont!!

to be honest i couldnt remember why i didnt like him when i was watching him last night, i think he floord a fighter i really liked or gave an interview in which i thought he was a bit arrogant a couple of years ago.

A lot to like about his performance last night though, although mcgee seems way pasy his best he outclassed him throughout with what i thought was a very impressive victory.

[lvlarc_uk]

You might have a point mate about the change of decision.  It was a very tough fight though.  Did you catch the name of the undercard fighter?   He will be a big name one day I think.

Which guy, the one who won in under 50 secs? That would be Jorge Barrios, been around for awhile just never got recognition or big fights made, just made a big statement though.


Justed watched the fight again, yep MAB definetly won that 7 rounds to 5, 1 or 2 could've gone either way though so wouldn't argue with a draw. Marco was just too good technically, also landed alot more punches. Rocky's big punches were harder, big props goto him, he was robbed against Raheem, but not this one.

However IF it went 15 rounds, Rocky may well of won as he was alot fresher at end, but IF's dont mean anything in this game.

[Sark79]

It might have been Bautista.  I probably misspelled it though 

[The Baron]

All fights should be socred like amatuer fights but intead of an overall score it should be round by round instead.

ie 5 juges have red and blue buttons and when 3 of them press together for a colour that fighter gets a point. Rounds should be decided this way IMO.

[Nem]

All fights should be socred like amatuer fights but intead of an overall score it should be round by round instead.

ie 5 juges have red and blue buttons and when 3 of them press together for a colour that fighter gets a point. Rounds should be decided this way IMO.

But then it would be hard to rig.