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« on: May 21, 2006, 05:42:05 PM »

How many people have had this thought if i play my most consistent game i should easily be able to average $100 a day, $100 a day times 30 days thats 3k a month onto of my wages, over a year that is 36k, easy.
How many people can actually do it? or have done it? Wish i had the discipline for that.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2006, 05:45:18 PM »

I have been thinking the VERY same thing.

I think that if you just play low level cash games, 50c $1 max and NO Tourneys, then this would be easily achievable.

Discipline is the key though,, all too easy to move up levels, or to try and make $200 a day, then $300 a day. Keep it small and EVERY day will always pay.

At the moment, I am experimenting with another tactic, which is paying approx $300 a day for the last 5 days, but as I like the tourneys, that $300 is paying for my tourneys, so unless I cash in them (which has been very dry of late) then I make $zero.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2006, 05:46:08 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2006, 05:57:31 PM »

Regularly, used to do that on blackjack, sometimes successfully, but I have real sense of value for money, and enjoy the winning more, so would just keep trying to win and win and win. Until I lost.
At one point I was regularly turning £20 into £500-750 at poker too, but then as M£ boy said, I'd just play bigger tables or more aggressively, and eventually I lose
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2006, 06:03:01 PM »

I like your idea of a fixed amount for mtt buy ins everyday, could stop me spunking oodles of money playing stupid speed re buy tournaments because it happens to be starting when i'm looking for something to play.

I recently tried being disciplined on the 0.50/1 tables and grinding out $50/$100 but my god it was boring and i was on the 2/4 and 3/6 very quickly. Had a great run but that is not the point, i couldn't be disciplined for more than 2 days.

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2006, 06:08:50 PM »

I think making $100 a day grinding it out on 50/1 tables should be very easy . I think you could even do it with a fairly low amount of varience if you modify the way you play and be risk averse. However Its very very very dull and I just cant resist firing up a stt or mtt . This affects my play on the cash tables as playing the 2 stlyes simultanousley screws my cash game. Definately achieveable with discipline tho .
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2006, 06:19:13 PM »

The very disciplined but very boring low variance approach to online cash games is exactly the way I do it, with good results so far

I find though I need one day a week of SNGs both to stop me going berserk and for a little action.

For a two month spell, my having done this 12 days out of 14 since Xmas, this approach to cash games killed my tournament play so now I do the odd MTT online and leave decent gaps between both types of play. Consequently my live form has picked up again.

The disciplines are very different.

Finally, do not confuse one's ability to grind out acceptable ROIs at levels up to $2-4 as being at all what is required for $5-10 and above...there you need an acceptance of variance and the ability both to make and recognise moves IMO
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2006, 06:21:59 PM »

The site you play can make a big difference. For example I think the cash games on Tribecca offer lots of opportunity but the STTs are better on Stars and I would not touch tournies except as a bonus to myself if things are going well
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2006, 06:24:27 PM »

Its the buzz of a tourney win though.

Say, I make $1500 playing cash in a day, but I win an MTT for $1500

Which gives you the bigger buzz??  The MTT win of course.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2006, 06:26:48 PM »

Personal opinion, I get a huge buzz out of playing cash games with big pots.
Bigger rush imo.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2006, 06:28:58 PM »

Its the buzz of a tourney win though.

Say, I make $1500 playing cash in a day, but I win an MTT for $1500

Which gives you the bigger buzz??  The MTT win of course.


The Buzz is great ....going to Vegas coz I managed my cash is better
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2006, 06:32:24 PM »

Tighty, do you sacrifice +ev plays to keep your variance to a minimum ? If you have JJ and the other player has AKs would you call for a buyin?
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2006, 06:36:01 PM »

Tough question jezza


how am I meant to know hes got AK suited?

theoretically though, giving away trade secrets though, to someone my notes has labelled as ABC-Solid then yes

to Fish-Loose-Aggressive then no


fortunately the fish to ABC quotient is unbalanced at levels from $1-2 down.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2006, 06:38:49 PM »

Its the buzz of a tourney win though.

Say, I make $1500 playing cash in a day, but I win an MTT for $1500

Which gives you the bigger buzz??  The MTT win of course.


It's not "of course". depends on your character type and motivations for playing the game. If you are palying for subsistence purposes then the delight from spending 3 hours doubling your buy in can have far greater utility than a MTT win

To the casual/wealthy/action player though then sure the MTT


but its horses for coursess
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2006, 07:39:23 PM »

This is quite a topical point for me, as I have been trying to put in the hours at lowish limit nlhe over the last couple of months. 

My biggest problem is I find that I have to really force myself to play during periods of running well.  I think the problem is that I know a downswing is on the way and I would rather postpone this as long as possible and prolong the feelgood factor of running well.
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