Inappropriate Jokes and blonde

[byronkincaid]

Are we still allowed to take the mick er I mean piss errrr are we still allowed to be funny about the frogs French?

[Bongo]

Isn't the point that by taking the mick out of flushy and calling him gay you implying that it is a bad thing and thus implicitly slurring all homosexuals?

[Colchester Kev]

Isn't the point that by taking the mick out of flushy and calling him gay you implying that it is a bad thing and thus implicitly slurring all homosexuals?

you say it all in that post Bongo ... as you put it "taking the mick" is absolutely what it is ....  its banter , its juvenile,  but at the end of the day its not an insult. 

[AceofWands]

I think it is a sad day when the censorship extends as far as the jokes and banter.  This place is in danger of becoming a sanitised, anodyne, politically correct environment.

We should never forget though that a site like this is not in any way a democratic forum. The site is owned by the persons pictured at the top of the page and exists for their commercial benefit. So I suppose understandably they will manage the site in what ever way they think best suits that purpose.

 

[Rod Paradise]

I'm pulling a terrible hat-trick here - but I agree with Ariston, Stallyon & Colchester Kev (and will be in the shower for at least an hour tonight to wash the uncleanliness off me )

If one Scotsman was to make a stand and complain about the Jock posts on here would they have to be stopped? The outcry against it would be mainly from north of the border. There's one or 2 that ruffle various feathers - but then you'd get that in the boozer as well.

I've a pal who 'came out' and got pissed off because every 'Have a drink ya big poof' comment meant an intake of breath and everybody looking to see if he was offended. He didn't want treated any different - and a bit of slagging because someone drinks a Smirnoff Ice is not homophobic.... He also knows any serious abuse to someone who is homosexual & we'd be dealing with the abuser.

Sorry Camel - I think this step is going too far.

[turny]

just red completly through this thread and hers my tuppence worth for what its worth.....

seems like some people want this site to become just like how society in general is becoming to politically correct!

i worked for many years for the royal shakespeare company where i was in contact with many people who were openly gay and can assure you that the majority of gay people have no problem with gay jokes and banter. in fact on many occasions i was ridiculed for being straight and made to feel uncomfortable by a gay remark made by a homosexual colleague. this was all done in a lightheaerted banter sort of way which although made me feel uncomfortable was never said or taken to being malicious in any way.

The same goes in my eyes for diabilities, race, religeon, age or looks.as long as they are comments made lightheartedly by "friends" in the context of humour and banter i see no problem.

please "blonde" lets not get to politically correct or over sensitive. my motto has always been "if you dont laugh you cry"

[marcro]

Can we make jokes about wives such as:

John was driving home from one of his business trips in Northern Arizona when he saw an elderly Navajo Indian walking on the side of the road. As the trip was a long and quiet one, he stopped the car and asked the Navajo Indian if he would like a ride.  With a silent nod of thanks, the old man got into the car. Resuming the
journey, John tried in vain to make a bit of small talk with the Navajo Indian. The old man just sat silently, looking intently at everything in the car, studying every little detail, until he noticed a brown bag on the seat next to John.

"What in bag?" asked the old man.

John looked down at the brown bag and said, "It's a bottle of wine. I got it for my wife."

The Navajo Indian was silent for another moment. Then speaking with the quiet wisdom of an elder, he said, "Good trade".   

[Rod Paradise]

just red completly through this thread and hers my tuppence worth for what its worth.....

seems like some people want this site to become just like how society in general is becoming to politically correct!

i worked for many years for the royal shakespeare company where i was in contact with many people who were openly gay and can assure you that the majority of gay people have no problem with gay jokes and banter. in fact on many occasions i was ridiculed for being straight and made to feel uncomfortable by a gay remark made by a homosexual colleague. this was all done in a lightheaerted banter sort of way which although made me feel uncomfortable was never said or taken to being malicious in any way.

The same goes in my eyes for diabilities, race, religeon, age or looks.as long as they are comments made lightheartedly by "friends" in the context of humour and banter i see no problem.

please "blonde" lets not get to politically correct or over sensitive. my motto has always been "if you dont laugh you cry"

Yep - I'm Rubbish & ITB hurt my feelings at BB2!!!  

[turny]

nothing wrong with that rod i was just stating a fact 

[tikay]

Great debate this, keep it coming please.

But many of you are missing Camel's point. If (poor Flushy!) calling Flushy "a poof" is, in effect, a term of endearment, gently pee-taking - which we all know it is - the fact is, there is a jokey suggestion inherent in that which suggests being Gay is a bad thing. THAT is Camel's point.

Me? I can see, & understand, precisely & clearly, both extremes of the argument.

This Forum intends to reflect the wishes of it's members, but we want the Members to keep this place as intended - a civil & decent place where we all have a laugh.

It's not easy, &, with hindsight, I was wrong to suggest yesterday that we will reach a clear cut decision today.

I'd like this thread to continue a while longer, so we can better gauge reaction.

I'd also appreciate more input from Camel.

The Mod's views? Plenty, & varied! They can all see both sides of it. I'd say, at present, they are 50/50, roughly, between saying "yes, it's wrong, lets stop it", & "ffs, this is PC gone mad".

We will see what you guys say before arriving at a decision.

All I can say, for 100% certain is that if some Posts a genuinely homophobic comment, or flame, we will warn them, or ban them. That has always been the case, & always will be.

It really is quite interesting how many different views folks have. Swearing, for instance. Many are offended by it, many don't give a hoot. At one time we intended to ban it, but then we said, after listening to the Members, "hey, OK, swearing is OK in moderation, but please use it sparingly & in a non-offensive way" &, largely speaking, it works. But it's MUCH more difficult to Moderate when there is not a clear-cut "yes or no" Policy.

My view? I hope we can continue to keep this a fun place, but as place where nobody is discriminated against. Even the Scots & Welsh.

But it frightened the hell out of me, the suggestion that maybe Ariston has made a good Post at last. Whatever next - Ariston winning a Last-Longer? Ariston, Spammer Supreme (Retired), accusing blonde of spamming too much? Oops, I forgot, he already did......

xx

[The Baron]

I've posted my say on the mod's board but I'll just say my 2p's worth here.

I actually think Camel has a point.

If we were to call Flushy say a "frog" (which he also isn't - and has also been used in this thread in jest) I'm pretty sure the French would take offence at their collective being used as an insult - whether it was between mates or not.

[flooze]

Being fairly new to contributing on blonde but having read the comments on the forum for a while there is a fine line between offensive and banter. The mods do an outstanding job on a very busy site.

Speaking from the female perspective its totally not offensive to me to call some one a 'girl' etc when playing badly but to some i guess its seen as derogatory and is used as an insult in this situation. The calls for norkage during updates dont offend me either - but the line is finely walked on occasion and other new comers esp of the female persuasion may disagree!

Each situation and post surely must be taken in context and judged as such? Out and out abuse is obviously not to be tolerated but a little common sense goes a long way.   

[Rod Paradise]

Great debate this, keep it coming please.

But many of you are missing Camel's point. If (poor Flushy!) calling Flushy "a poof" is, in effect, a term of endearment, gently pee-taking - which we all know it is - the fact is, there is a jokey suggestion inherent in that which suggests being Gay is a bad thing. THAT is Camel's point.

Me? I can see, & understand, precisely & clearly, both extremes of the argument.

This Forum intends to reflect the wishes of it's members, but we want the Members to keep this place as intended - a civil & decent place where we all have a laugh.

It's not easy, &, with hindsight, I was wrong to suggest yesterday that we will reach a clear cut decision today.

I'd like this thread to continue a while longer, so we can better gauge reaction.

I'd also appreciate more input from Camel.

The Mod's views? Plenty, & varied! They can all see both sides of it. I'd say, at present, they are 50/50, roughly, between saying "yes, it's wrong, lets stop it", & "ffs, this is PC gone mad".

We will see what you guys say before arriving at a decision.

All I can say, for 100% certain is that if some Posts a genuinely homophobic comment, or flame, we will warn them, or ban them. That has always been the case, & always will be.

It really is quite interesting how many different views folks have. Swearing, for instance. Many are offended by it, many don't give a hoot. At one time we intended to ban it, but then we said, after listening to the Members, "hey, OK, swearing is OK in moderation, but please use it sparingly & in a non-offensive way" &, largely speaking, it works. But it's MUCH more difficult to Moderate when there is not a clear-cut "yes or no" Policy.

My view? I hope we can continue to keep this a fun place, but as place where nobody is discriminated against. Even the Scots & Welsh.

But it frightened the hell out of me, the suggestion that maybe Ariston has made a good Post at last. Whatever next - Ariston winning a Last-Longer? Ariston, Spammer Supreme (Retired), accusing blonde of spamming too much? Oops, I forgot, he already did......

xx

Could I suggest a few paragraphs as you join - my attempt - please get someone who can express themselves better to edit it....


PLEASE NOTE discussions (and some articles/blogs) in Blonde Poker can & will tend to be like conversations in the bar of a nice pub.

 i.e you will get some slight innuendo, various flirtations and general bloke/bird stuff. THERE IS NO INSULT INTENDED. Be you asexual bisexual or trisexual - there is no intended put-down. Anyone feeling offense please pm the mods/admin, or stand up for yourself without flaming, you'll probably get an appology as soon as the poster reads your complaint.

This attitude applies to friendly insults between Blondeites who have got to be good friends. If Tank calls Rod Paradise a Fat B@st@rd - it's a friendly dig and anyone gravitationally challenged is asked to respect that and not get all het up. Likewise digs about Kev's eye are not blanket insults on skelly folk.

Also note that just because some of the lookers on the site (ie Chilli, Mrs C, Djinn, et al ) get complimentary comments, we do not discriminate against mingers - again, Rod Paradise & Colchester Kev are well known on this site (and have been allowed to post pictures of themselves).


Likewise there will be nationally directed insults towards various countries, including all found in the Animaniacs song http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2694.html and more... these are allowed unless they don't offend good taste decency and are meant in humour - not to be racist and don't upset people. Please complain if they upset you, but bear all the above in mind. Note that most are met with smug "I know we're better than those XXXish b@st@rds anyway" attitudes from the YYYish people being slagged.

Finally - NO serious insult to another Blondeite or Non-Blondeite  is justifyable.
 
Please, if you are insulted,

• step back
• think of the above
• cool down
• think again

, still hurt? Then post calmly explaining that & pm the Mods. Remember it's easy to read the worst into a post and the worst intentions into a post.

[marcro]

Isn't the point that by taking the mick out of flushy and calling him gay you implying that it is a bad thing and thus implicitly slurring all homosexuals?

So is flushy bisexual then?

[tikay]

Great debate this, keep it coming please.

But many of you are missing Camel's point. If (poor Flushy!) calling Flushy "a poof" is, in effect, a term of endearment, gently pee-taking - which we all know it is - the fact is, there is a jokey suggestion inherent in that which suggests being Gay is a bad thing. THAT is Camel's point.

Me? I can see, & understand, precisely & clearly, both extremes of the argument.

This Forum intends to reflect the wishes of it's members, but we want the Members to keep this place as intended - a civil & decent place where we all have a laugh.

It's not easy, &, with hindsight, I was wrong to suggest yesterday that we will reach a clear cut decision today.

I'd like this thread to continue a while longer, so we can better gauge reaction.

I'd also appreciate more input from Camel.

The Mod's views? Plenty, & varied! They can all see both sides of it. I'd say, at present, they are 50/50, roughly, between saying "yes, it's wrong, lets stop it", & "ffs, this is PC gone mad".

We will see what you guys say before arriving at a decision.

All I can say, for 100% certain is that if some Posts a genuinely homophobic comment, or flame, we will warn them, or ban them. That has always been the case, & always will be.

It really is quite interesting how many different views folks have. Swearing, for instance. Many are offended by it, many don't give a hoot. At one time we intended to ban it, but then we said, after listening to the Members, "hey, OK, swearing is OK in moderation, but please use it sparingly & in a non-offensive way" &, largely speaking, it works. But it's MUCH more difficult to Moderate when there is not a clear-cut "yes or no" Policy.

My view? I hope we can continue to keep this a fun place, but as place where nobody is discriminated against. Even the Scots & Welsh.

But it frightened the hell out of me, the suggestion that maybe Ariston has made a good Post at last. Whatever next - Ariston winning a Last-Longer? Ariston, Spammer Supreme (Retired), accusing blonde of spamming too much? Oops, I forgot, he already did......

xx

Could I suggest a few paragraphs as you join - my attempt - please get someone who can express themselves better to edit it....


PLEASE NOTE discussions (and some articles/blogs) in Blonde Poker can & will tend to be like conversations in the bar of a nice pub.

 i.e you will get some slight innuendo, various flirtations and general bloke/bird stuff. THERE IS NO INSULT INTENDED. Be you asexual bisexual or trisexual - there is no intended put-down. Anyone feeling offense please pm the mods/admin, or stand up for yourself without flaming, you'll probably get an appology as soon as the poster reads your complaint.

This attitude applies to friendly insults between Blondeites who have got to be good friends. If Tank calls Rod Paradise a Fat B@st@rd - it's a friendly dig and anyone gravitationally challenged is asked to respect that and not get all het up. Likewise digs about Kev's eye are not blanket insults on skelly folk.

Also note that just because some of the lookers on the site (ie Chilli, Mrs C, Djinn, et al ) get complimentary comments, we do not discriminate against mingers - again, Rod Paradise & Colchester Kev are well known on this site (and have been allowed to post pictures of themselves).


Likewise there will be nationally directed insults towards various countries, including all found in the Animaniacs song http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2694.html and more... these are allowed unless they don't offend good taste decency and are meant in humour - not to be racist and don't upset people. Please complain if they upset you, but bear all the above in mind. Note that most are met with smug "I know we're better than those XXXish b@st@rds anyway" attitudes from the YYYish people being slagged.

Finally - NO serious insult to another Blondeite or Non-Blondeite  is justifyable.
 
Please, if you are insulted,

• step back
• think of the above
• cool down
• think again

, still hurt? Then post calmly explaining that & pm the Mods. Remember it's easy to read the worst into a post and the worst intentions into a post.

Wow, what a corking Post.

Those opposed, better start Posting now, because that Post, above all others, gets it spot on for me. And what a relief that Ariston's Post is no longer the best one on this Thread - phew!

Thanks Rod. Those opposed better get their act together!