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« Reply #90 on: June 19, 2006, 03:38:36 PM »

Who is using Aristons user ID, It cant be him, these posts are making sense  

I aggree with Tikay, common sense is the key to moderating the posts that may fall in to the category of " could be offensive to someone"

On blonde we have a great community spirit, there is a good balance of common sense, "banter", and intellectual posts which keep the flow of the forum going, I would dislike for Blonde to become the place where people are made to feel unwelcome, or segregated if you will.

Now imagine this, every Mod is as strict as Tighty!!, we have a hard time sneaking the cheeky stuff on to the boards as it is, poor old stallyon would be banned onthe first day, Ariston would be banned for his nonsensical posts, and i would be hung out for saying Tikay is old, Whats more no one could call Flushy any names at all!

Lets leave Blonde as it is, The mods do a good job ( even Tighty ) and long may it continue, If someone takes exception to a remark, thats what the report to mod button is for.

ok time to dismount,

BTW please excuse all spelling mistakes ( i'm just to lazy to correct them all )
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« Reply #91 on: June 19, 2006, 03:40:01 PM »

I think it has to be a judgement call by the mods on each case individually. I can see your point keith and it has certainly brought a good debate into the open but I think a lot of it is harmless juvenile fun. How can I get away with calling anyone fat or bald for instance? pot and kettle comes to mind. I know of at least one blondite who is homosexual (and I don't mean Flushy) and he has never as far as I am aware been offended by any of the childish humour on here.
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« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2006, 03:43:23 PM »

For the record. I agree entirely with ifm, Bongo, and Ariston (God help me).

Political correctness gone mad if you ask me.

Ok I admit that someone, somewhere, COULD be offended if he saw a post in which Kev refers to flushy as a big poof, but ffs, lets get real here.

What if anorexics get upset when we say Snoop is too thin, or scientists are offended by the phrase 'clever clogs’?

We will be scared of calling someone a fish soon, in case we alienate a haddock.

 


All I can say is I am extremely offended every time anyone calls someone else a poof.

And have been for as long as I've been a member of blondepoker.

If that makes me PC so be it.

Would you be offended if someone called a black poker player a "lucky nigger"?
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« Reply #93 on: June 19, 2006, 03:47:24 PM »

I think it has to be a judgement call by the mods on each case individually. I can see your point keith and it has certainly brought a good debate into the open but I think a lot of it is harmless juvenile fun. How can I get away with calling anyone fat or bald for instance? pot and kettle comes to mind. I know of at least one blondite who is homosexual (and I don't mean Flushy) and he has never as far as I am aware been offended by any of the childish humour on here.

I know a blonde homosexual who doesn't like it. He's just "used to it" though. I doubt he'll post on here about it as he's a lurker primarily but his veiw is very much that some gay people will take it A LOT more sensitively than others when they really shouldn't have to.
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« Reply #94 on: June 19, 2006, 03:56:24 PM »

For the record. I agree entirely with ifm, Bongo, and Ariston (God help me).

Political correctness gone mad if you ask me.

Ok I admit that someone, somewhere, COULD be offended if he saw a post in which Kev refers to flushy as a big poof, but ffs, lets get real here.

What if anorexics get upset when we say Snoop is too thin, or scientists are offended by the phrase 'clever clogs’?

We will be scared of calling someone a fish soon, in case we alienate a haddock.

 


All I can say is I am extremely offended every time anyone calls someone else a poof.

And have been for as long as I've been a member of blondepoker.

If that makes me PC so be it.

Would you be offended if someone called a black poker player a "lucky nigger"?


That last comment is un-necessary.

If you have read all the points and still consider it an insult then I guess it'll have to be stopped (as I've said I doubt many people will use it after you explained what upset you about it.

I just find it a shame that something has bothered you to this extent.
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« Reply #95 on: June 19, 2006, 03:57:17 PM »

For the record. I agree entirely with ifm, Bongo, and Ariston (God help me).

Political correctness gone mad if you ask me.

Ok I admit that someone, somewhere, COULD be offended if he saw a post in which Kev refers to flushy as a big poof, but ffs, lets get real here.

What if anorexics get upset when we say Snoop is too thin, or scientists are offended by the phrase 'clever clogs’?

We will be scared of calling someone a fish soon, in case we alienate a haddock.

 


All I can say is I am extremely offended every time anyone calls someone else a poof.

And have been for as long as I've been a member of blondepoker.

If that makes me PC so be it.

Would you be offended if someone called a black poker player a "lucky nigger"?


I believe the "lucky Nigger" remark would be completely different, I have a few friends of African heritage and they use the term " nigger" in a banter fashion the way we would use the term "Poof" if someone was being a bit girly when making decisions.

Now I would never consider allowing the word "nigger" pass my lips, when conversing with my friends, likewise the use of "paki" or "Chinky" yet within some cultures these are used as friendly banter.

Keith, I understand that the "poof" remarks can seem like a segregation of sorts, yet thats not the intent and i believe the intent is the important point here.

If someone is intent on causing ill feeling, then there is a problem to deal with.

Incidently this has been another great thread for debate.
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« Reply #96 on: June 19, 2006, 04:04:45 PM »

For the record. I agree entirely with ifm, Bongo, and Ariston (God help me).

Political correctness gone mad if you ask me.

Ok I admit that someone, somewhere, COULD be offended if he saw a post in which Kev refers to flushy as a big poof, but ffs, lets get real here.

What if anorexics get upset when we say Snoop is too thin, or scientists are offended by the phrase 'clever clogs’?

We will be scared of calling someone a fish soon, in case we alienate a haddock.

 


All I can say is I am extremely offended every time anyone calls someone else a poof.

And have been for as long as I've been a member of blondepoker.

If that makes me PC so be it.

Would you be offended if someone called a black poker player a "lucky nigger"?


I believe the "lucky Nigger" remark would be completely different, I have a few friends of African heritage and they use the term " nigger" in a banter fashion the way we would use the term "Poof" if someone was being a bit girly when making decisions.

Now I would never consider allowing the word "nigger" pass my lips, when conversing with my friends, likewise the use of "paki" or "Chinky" yet within some cultures these are used as friendly banter.

Keith, I understand that the "poof" remarks can seem like a segregation of sorts, yet thats not the intent and i believe the intent is the important point here.

If someone is intent on causing ill feeling, then there is a problem to deal with.

Incidently this has been another great thread for debate.

Firstly "nigga" and "nigger" are two words with entirely different concepts.

Secondly when people use this kind of banter it is generally at each other of the same group. When aimed at someone who is NOT black/Asian/Chinese it is used to take the mick and is therefore derogatory - as in the Flushy case. If he was gay it would be banter - as he is not it is derogatory.
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« Reply #97 on: June 19, 2006, 04:05:44 PM »

I have perhaps, stumbled upon the main point of what I'm trying to say.

It is casual homophobia, as well as casual discrimination of any sort which is the most offensive in my opinion.

Making a joke out of something offensive just serves to make it worse, not better.
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« Reply #98 on: June 19, 2006, 04:09:16 PM »


Secondly when people use this kind of banter it is generally at each other of the same group. When aimed at someone who is NOT black/Asian/Chinese it is used to take the mick and is therefore derogatory - as in the Flushy case. If he was gay it would be banter - as he is not it is derogatory.
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Aaron has described in one paragraph what I have been trying to say in 100 posts.

I should stick to poker and leave the debating to those better qualified!
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« Reply #99 on: June 19, 2006, 04:10:42 PM »

How many members of Blonde have been banned since the forum started? 
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« Reply #100 on: June 19, 2006, 04:12:34 PM »

I'm of german/jewish origin (imagine the stick i got at school) and would certainly take offence if someone was refered to as being jewish for being perceived to be tight.
Thus i have to agree with the camel's point of view although i have certainly smiled when flushy has been the subject of harmlessly intended abuse. I think flushy should hence just be called a girl.
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« Reply #101 on: June 19, 2006, 04:13:04 PM »


Secondly when people use this kind of banter it is generally at each other of the same group. When aimed at someone who is NOT black/Asian/Chinese it is used to take the mick and is therefore derogatory - as in the Flushy case. If he was gay it would be banter - as he is not it is derogatory.

BINGO! WE HAVE A WINNER!

Aaron has described in one paragraph what I have been trying to say in 100 posts.

I should stick to poker and leave the debating to those better qualified!
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Ah, but if he had 'gay qualities' would it be back to banter.

I'm still the skinny kid with long hair that I was at 19 in my head - but I keep getting slagged for being bald and fat......
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« Reply #102 on: June 19, 2006, 04:13:32 PM »

I have perhaps, stumbled upon the main point of what I'm trying to say.

It is casual homophobia, as well as casual discrimination of any sort which is the most offensive in my opinion.

Making a joke out of something offensive just serves to make it worse, not better.


I am not in the least homophobic, and yet I would call soneone a big poof in a jokey fashion, where does that leave me?

Would it offend you if I called someone a big girl, or a crackpot, if not, why not?



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« Reply #103 on: June 19, 2006, 04:13:57 PM »

Ultimatly it's up to the mods, yes?

They discern which posts are deemed to be fit for general veiwing and which ones have to be edited/deleted.

Of course it's correct for people to articulate their concerns over posts if they find them offensive but this should'nt precipitate prospective changes in blonde rules.

when action man raised his concerns over the increasing spam content on blonde the posts by snoopy and other mods at the top of the main page were moved for a time.

The sites run very well and i think that on a public forum all you can do, in keeping with spirit of blonde, is make the place as receptive as possible to the diverese array of users that you have, so by doing allowing the majority of members to continue posting in the spirit in which blonde was intended.

My point being is that its healthy to review issues of political correctness, but if your going to impliment restrictions and regulations as a result of the extremely persuasive and credulous arguments of a single member then you aleinate the majority.

I think that what the camel says is correct in that he should be able to take offence at particular posts, but i feel that the emotion that different threads provoke is part of the blonde forum ethos, varied and abundent in its panapleee of content.
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« Reply #104 on: June 19, 2006, 04:18:12 PM »

I never picked up on the jokes about Flushy until yesterday. To be honest, I always had him down as a tough nut.  Cheesy.   I am not sure why, it's just the image I had in my mind  Cheesy.  I guess I was completely wrong again 
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