Inappropriate Jokes and blonde

[turny]

how far are we going to take this?

if people werent so sensitive and learnt to take things in the light heartedness it was meant then everything would be fine.

i have a big nose, im fat and im rubbish but anyone calling anyone else any of these on blonde doesnt offend me.

the itb have a member whose ginger who we all call ginger freak.
we have an asian member we call "gandhi" or we refer to him as our token asian.
we have a member whose fat who we call fatboy.
we have a bald person we call baldie
and me personally for having a big nose am often called jewboy.

not one of us is offended by this and in a way we are having a go at the politically correct brigade for not allowing us to do and say what we like.

what it proves is that we are a close bunch of friends who are not offended by harmless jokes n banter.

I can see a couple of those being taken in offence to be honest.

my post states that none of the people are offended.

ok then ace so why only a couple and not all of them?
are some discriminations in your eyes worse than others?

If you were jewish and had a big nose would you be happy about being called Jewboy?

for all you know i might be jewish and no i wouldnt and am not offended by this

[ariston]

The thing about juvenile humour between friends is that nothing is too insulting. We have many asian players at blackpool who quite often get called taliban etc over the table by certain players. When I first heard it I thought it was offensive to them but one of them just threatened to blow up his house if he carried on. Humour between friends should not be interfeared with imo. If you bad one form of discrimination (even in a jovial way) you have to stop all forms of discrimination. How many people in wales were prosecuted for beatiality on sheep? Apart from dewi probably none yet we all mock them for it. Generalisation isn't a good thing but we are aldults on here and should be able to see the difference between humour and any malicious intent.

[turny]

ive got the answer....................


why doesnt everyone stop posting then we cant upset anyone!!!!!

[The Baron]

how far are we going to take this?

if people werent so sensitive and learnt to take things in the light heartedness it was meant then everything would be fine.

i have a big nose, im fat and im rubbish but anyone calling anyone else any of these on blonde doesnt offend me.

the itb have a member whose ginger who we all call ginger freak.
we have an asian member we call "gandhi" or we refer to him as our token asian.
we have a member whose fat who we call fatboy.
we have a bald person we call baldie
and me personally for having a big nose am often called jewboy.

not one of us is offended by this and in a way we are having a go at the politically correct brigade for not allowing us to do and say what we like.

what it proves is that we are a close bunch of friends who are not offended by harmless jokes n banter.

I can see a couple of those being taken in offence to be honest.

my post states that none of the people are offended.

ok then ace so why only a couple and not all of them?
are some discriminations in your eyes worse than others?

If you were jewish and had a big nose would you be happy about being called Jewboy?

for all you know i might be jewish and no i wouldnt and am not offended by this

The point is that other Jews might be.

[RED-DOG]

I know you have a problem with me personally Tom. And I have no idea why.

I think this statement offers an insight into the way you react to the things people say Keith. You perceive malice where none is intended and where most people would not.

For the record, I have always admired you, I consider you to be a friend, and have (until now) felt comfortable when offering an opposing point of view.

[turny]

how far are we going to take this?

if people werent so sensitive and learnt to take things in the light heartedness it was meant then everything would be fine.

i have a big nose, im fat and im rubbish but anyone calling anyone else any of these on blonde doesnt offend me.

the itb have a member whose ginger who we all call ginger freak.
we have an asian member we call "gandhi" or we refer to him as our token asian.
we have a member whose fat who we call fatboy.
we have a bald person we call baldie
and me personally for having a big nose am often called jewboy.

not one of us is offended by this and in a way we are having a go at the politically correct brigade for not allowing us to do and say what we like.

what it proves is that we are a close bunch of friends who are not offended by harmless jokes n banter.

I can see a couple of those being taken in offence to be honest.

my post states that none of the people are offended.

ok then ace so why only a couple and not all of them?
are some discriminations in your eyes worse than others?

If you were jewish and had a big nose would you be happy about being called Jewboy?

for all you know i might be jewish and no i wouldnt and am not offended by this

The point is that other Jews might be.

and so might some fatties,gingers,asians and baldies.

so why highlight the jew part of the post??

none are worse than any of the others.

[Sark79]

This has been an interesting thread.  I was fortunate at school that I wasn't bullied, I somehow managed to stay on friendly terms with all the different  groups that make up a school class.  However I did see some close friends bullied. This was mainly due to the common things that kids are bullied for, such as being overweight or not having the right fashion.  Silly things really.  I tried to show the bully they were the same by talking to them.  This didn't always work, but sometimes it did.

I can understand Camels concerns.  However as others have already suggested, this is an open forum. As a result it is impossible to police all the members of Blonde. If the mods did this, I feel that many of the members of the forum would be afraid to post on any subject in case they had their wrists slapped as a result.

Insults aren't nice. But they are only words. I remember Claw saying recently that a player had accused her of cheating. She knew she wasn't a cheat, we all know she isn't a cheat. But it still stings when people say things that aren't true.

The only way round this is to try and ignore it.  I know that is easier said than done. But it is the only way. Until I invent my "mass mind control" machine we will continue to have our own individual beliefs, norms and values. That is a great thing about being human.  If we all believed the same, it would be boring. 

( A warning about the "mass mind control" machine.  You will all think the same thoughts as me  )

[tikay]

As to how blonde resolves this, I still don't know. The Mods, including me, still have to come to a decision.

But whatever decision they come to, I will still do my own thing.

I don't THINK I've ever, in jest or otherwise called someone gay, but I sure never will from here on in. In jest, or otherwise.

I shall continue to berate Couch Kev for having dodgy mince-pies, Iron & the Scottish Department of blonde for being Scots, Dewi & Co for being nanny-goat-ish, Robert for being an Estate Agent, Ariston & Flushy for being hopeless.

And I shall encourage others, by example, to do the same.

But that's not to pre-judge the "official" outcome.  I shall simply do my own thing here, & I am sure most of you, now realising the impact their words can have, will do likewise.

so tikay are you saying that it is worse to call someone gay than insult someone for there race or for there size?
or is it just that it was a blonde who was offended by the gay jibes that took offence?

I am not sure what point you are making there, so I can't really answer it.

It's not a case of "worse" or "better" though. It's the case that, in life, I don't like insulting or offending people. It's as simple as that. I dislike a few people, not many, admittedly, but I don't go round insulting them, I just keep my own counsel.

And blonde is, whether we like it or not, effectively something I started, which, in many ways, reflects Dave & my ideals. And most of the blondes seem to think along the same lines, because that's how life works - like-minded folks tend to gather together.

[turny]

I know you have a problem with me personally Tom. And I have no idea why.

I think this statement offers an insight into the way you react to the things people say Keith. You perceive malice where none is intended and where most people would not.

For the record, I have always admired you, I consider you to be a friend, and have (until now) felt comfortable when offering an opposing point of view.

i also was suprised with keith singling you out red amongst all these posts as concieving your post as a personal attack.

maybe there is history or an underlying problem between the two of you if not why would keith react to your post differently to the other 50 odd posts on this thread?

[bolt pp]

This has been an interesting thread.  I was fortunate at school that I wasn't bullied, I somehow managed to stay on friendly terms with all the different  groups that make up a school class.  However I did see some close friends bullied. This was mainly due to the common things that kids are bullied for, such as being overweight or not having the right fashion.  Silly things really.  I tried to show the bully they were the same by talking to them.  This didn't always work, but sometimes it did.

I can understand Camels concerns.  However as others have already suggested, this is an open forum. As a result it is impossible to police all the members of Blonde. If the mods did this, I feel that many of the members of the forum would be afraid to post on any subject in case they had their wrists slapped as a result.

Insults aren't nice. But they are only words. I remember Claw saying recently that a player had accused her of cheating. She knew she wasn't a cheat, we all know she isn't a cheat. But it still stings when people say things that aren't true.

The only way round this is to try and ignore it.  I know that is easier said than done. But it is the only way. Until I invent my "mass mind control" machine we will continue to have our own individual beliefs, norms and values. That is a great thing about being human.  If we all believed the same, it would be boring. 

( A warning about the "mass mind control" machine.  You will all think the same thoughts as me  )

    and you managed to articulate it withut sounding like the next hitler, something which i seemingliy failed to do.

[ACE2M]

how far are we going to take this?

if people werent so sensitive and learnt to take things in the light heartedness it was meant then everything would be fine.

i have a big nose, im fat and im rubbish but anyone calling anyone else any of these on blonde doesnt offend me.

the itb have a member whose ginger who we all call ginger freak.
we have an asian member we call "gandhi" or we refer to him as our token asian.
we have a member whose fat who we call fatboy.
we have a bald person we call baldie
and me personally for having a big nose am often called jewboy.

not one of us is offended by this and in a way we are having a go at the politically correct brigade for not allowing us to do and say what we like.

what it proves is that we are a close bunch of friends who are not offended by harmless jokes n banter.

I can see a couple of those being taken in offence to be honest.

my post states that none of the people are offended.

ok then ace so why only a couple and not all of them?
are some discriminations in your eyes worse than others?

If you were jewish and had a big nose would you be happy about being called Jewboy?

for all you know i might be jewish and no i wouldnt and am not offended by this

The point is that other Jews might be.

and so might some fatties,gingers,asians and baldies.

so why highlight the jew part of the post??

none are worse than any of the others.

I plucked it out quickly as the one that stood out to me most. As i said you cannot win in this situation, one mans wine is another mans poison. I'm not having a go at you.

I regularly refer to friends with names that would certainly be offensive to some groups but certainly wouldn't say it in any sort of public forum as it is a private joke and should stay that way.

[Mr F]

I get called some very dodgy names referring to my work with kids a lot.  There is a group of people I will accept it from, they are close mates who know that I am not a "kiidy fiddler" as they call me.  

There have in the past been other comments from people who do not know me at all calling me a paedo, or as one woman put it "I'll never let you near my kids you freak".  

Now the first group would not call me these names if they thought it was true, they would also not speak to me if this was the case.  I am not offended by these people.  I consider this banter.  But I think that any blondes who did not know the situation would be offended here.  This siituation does'nt bother me, do people think it should?  

The second group are just ignorant and ignore them anyway.  

I guess the fact that I'm ok with it doesn't mean that other people won't be offended for me.  

[turny]

As to how blonde resolves this, I still don't know. The Mods, including me, still have to come to a decision.

But whatever decision they come to, I will still do my own thing.

I don't THINK I've ever, in jest or otherwise called someone gay, but I sure never will from here on in. In jest, or otherwise.

I shall continue to berate Couch Kev for having dodgy mince-pies, Iron & the Scottish Department of blonde for being Scots, Dewi & Co for being nanny-goat-ish, Robert for being an Estate Agent, Ariston & Flushy for being hopeless.

And I shall encourage others, by example, to do the same.

But that's not to pre-judge the "official" outcome.  I shall simply do my own thing here, & I am sure most of you, now realising the impact their words can have, will do likewise.

so tikay are you saying that it is worse to call someone gay than insult someone for there race or for there size?
or is it just that it was a blonde who was offended by the gay jibes that took offence?

I am not sure what point you are making there, so I can't really answer it.

It's not a case of "worse" or "better" though. It's the case that, in life, I don't like insulting or offending people. It's as simple as that. I dislike a few people, not many, admittedly, but I don't go round insulting them, I just keep my own counsel.

And blonde is, whether we like it or not, effectively something I started, which, in many ways, reflects Dave & my ideals. And most of the blondes seem to think along the same lines, because that's how life works - like-minded folks tend to gather together.

sorry tikay. the point im trying to make is that you say you will not be refering to anyone as gay in the future but are happy to berate kev iron and the scottish boys for there disabilities and race.

just wondered why u feel comfortable with that and not comfortable with calling someone like flushy who lets be honest looks and moves a bit camp  "gay"

[The Baron]

how far are we going to take this?

if people werent so sensitive and learnt to take things in the light heartedness it was meant then everything would be fine.

i have a big nose, im fat and im rubbish but anyone calling anyone else any of these on blonde doesnt offend me.

the itb have a member whose ginger who we all call ginger freak.
we have an asian member we call "gandhi" or we refer to him as our token asian.
we have a member whose fat who we call fatboy.
we have a bald person we call baldie
and me personally for having a big nose am often called jewboy.

not one of us is offended by this and in a way we are having a go at the politically correct brigade for not allowing us to do and say what we like.

what it proves is that we are a close bunch of friends who are not offended by harmless jokes n banter.

I can see a couple of those being taken in offence to be honest.

my post states that none of the people are offended.

ok then ace so why only a couple and not all of them?
are some discriminations in your eyes worse than others?

If you were jewish and had a big nose would you be happy about being called Jewboy?

for all you know i might be jewish and no i wouldnt and am not offended by this

The point is that other Jews might be.

and so might some fatties,gingers,asians and baldies.

so why highlight the jew part of the post??

none are worse than any of the others.

I agree. I didn't highlight the Jew post, Ace2M did.

If so many can be offended by this type of stuff then it has no place IMO. Just because one group of mates finds it non-offensive, that doesn't mean 3000 blondes will.

[turny]

how far are we going to take this?

if people werent so sensitive and learnt to take things in the light heartedness it was meant then everything would be fine.

i have a big nose, im fat and im rubbish but anyone calling anyone else any of these on blonde doesnt offend me.

the itb have a member whose ginger who we all call ginger freak.
we have an asian member we call "gandhi" or we refer to him as our token asian.
we have a member whose fat who we call fatboy.
we have a bald person we call baldie
and me personally for having a big nose am often called jewboy.

not one of us is offended by this and in a way we are having a go at the politically correct brigade for not allowing us to do and say what we like.

what it proves is that we are a close bunch of friends who are not offended by harmless jokes n banter.

I can see a couple of those being taken in offence to be honest.

my post states that none of the people are offended.

ok then ace so why only a couple and not all of them?
are some discriminations in your eyes worse than others?

If you were jewish and had a big nose would you be happy about being called Jewboy?

for all you know i might be jewish and no i wouldnt and am not offended by this

The point is that other Jews might be.

and so might some fatties,gingers,asians and baldies.

so why highlight the jew part of the post??

none are worse than any of the others.

I plucked it out quickly as the one that stood out to me most. As i said you cannot win in this situation, one mans wine is another mans poison. I'm not having a go at you.

I regularly refer to friends with names that would certainly be offensive to some groups but certainly wouldn't say it in any sort of public forum as it is a private joke and should stay that way.

exactly the point im trying to make.
but sometimes the private joke is made in public and shouldnt be taken as offensive by anyone over hearing.