William Hill is linked directly to this forum

[Yurah]

I clicked on POKER NEWS on the William Hill software and was brought directly here. Wasn't there a argument about William Hill being somehow affiliated with this site? IF it is a direct link, wouldn't that be an "affiliation"? I remember that nothing negative was allowed to be posted about William Hill here/ So who owns and runs this site?

[The Truth]

Wasn't there a argument about William Hill being somehow affiliated with this site?

Sort of.

IF it is a direct link, wouldn't that be an "affiliation"?

Not necessarily.

The term affiliation needs to be defined.

I remember that nothing negative was allowed to be posted about William Hill here

You must have selective memory. It is possible to post negative things about William Hill. It just has to be done in a civilised manner.

So who owns and runs this site?

I am sure someone else can answer this more accurately than me, however the simplistic answer is Tikay, El Blondie, Mrs C and team. The forum though more generally reflects the views of the members and contributors.

[dan]

you can get to this forum via will hill, yes
you can say negitive things about will hill if they are justified and as long as it is in a non agressive manner. i recently posted on here that i was having some problems with being dissconnected alot and i will say it has improved lately.
but william hill DO NOT own or control any part of this site. just because you can get here via will hill does not mean that moaning on here(which i am not saying you are) will get anything done.i go on the arsenal website now and then, and from there i can goto ladbrokes website 02's website and various others but they are not owned or controlled by arsenal football club are they??

[ifm]

that's rather odd, you gotta admit it does look pretty suspicious

[bobby1]

Suspicious?

William Hill have had the forum added to the poker425 site for over a month, in turn this is added in rotation to the poker news link on the poker site.

We have a business deal with Blonde as we wanted to provide a forum for our players and just as importantly provide live updates of big poker tournaments to poker fans.

Blondepoker own this forum and William Hill have paid to add it to our site, you can post on any subject and about any online site, this is a poker forum.

[ifm]

i didn't mean suspicious from my point of view, i meant for someone who clicks thru the link, they are obviously gonna think it's willy hills forum.
I thought the deal was for a month anyhow?
Ian

[tikay]

sheesh, everyone is suspicious of everything, what IS the matter with folks?

Heres the deal.

We secured a deal with Poker 425 (owned by William Hill) to supply them with badged Live Updates fom Vegas. To make it simple, we said one month. This financed the cost of me & an assistant (Jen as it turned out, thank God), going to Vegas to do the Updates. We ANNOUNCED IT ON THE FORUM (Ironside, can you do a link to the post & thread please?). The Members welcomed it unanimously - they realised it meant they, the blondeites, would get FREE LIVE UPDATES. And we had to badge the Forum "Poker 425 blonde". Everyone happy. Everyone a winner. No secrets. None whatsobloody ever.

Poker 425 also wanted it to work. So to stimulate traffic, they created a link to the Forum from the William Hill Cardroom. Actually, the link from Wm Hill is to www.poker425.com (Forum), but as that happens to be OUR Forum, it amounts to the same thing.

One month, but it's now 5 weeks? Yes, to facilitate the negotiations to continue it, or not, we agreed to extend it by one week, to "throw it in" as it were, The Vic Live Update. Negotiations continue with Poker 425 & Wm Hill, as they do with 3 other interested parties. The discussions are cordial & civil with all of us. We DO need the deal, to finance the costs, so we can keep it free.

Next, I will answer the other amazing allegation, that you cannot criticise Wm Hill on here.

[Ironside]

ask and you shall be obeyed

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=642.0

[tikay]

Our deal with Poker 425 (or Wm Hil if you prefer) stipulated that they would have no editorial influence WHATSOEVER. We would demand 100% indeprendence. All agreed, all happy.

During Vegas, Wm Hill had software probs on their site. Several members complained about it. Wm Hill - via bobby 1 - was able to use the Forum as a platform to answer those queries and complaints, which he did, at great length. He said "yup, sorry, we had a prob, it was caused by this, that & the other, we are working on it, da de da de da. Sorry".

Then a mischief maker came on & rubbished Wm Hill big time. No prob, dont forget, "we have editrorial independence". Wm Hill responded (via Bobby 1) in great detail. BUT, because the complaimnant was clearly a mischief maker, & the allegations were backed up by a tissue of lies, Wm Hill (bobby) replied OFF FORUM, via blonde Personal Message. So what did Matey Boy do? He puiblished bobby's private reply ON THE FORUM.

Ironside then wrote to Matey Boy via PM. Ironside has Moderator Status for blonde. And Matey Boy published THAT Private Message on the Forum too. Matey Boy, by the way, was complaining about a cancelled Freeroll. Matey Boys IP address traced him to.....Texas. A HUGE demand for Wm Hill Freeroll's in Texas, it seems.....

So we thought, enough is enough. That's my right. The blondeites are fiercely protrective of this place.

Any more questions sunshine? By the way, the preface of yurah's e-address? "yurahnasso."

We have nothing to hide. Everything has been laid out, in public, up front. Take it or leave it, my good, but bravely anonymous, friend.

[I KNOW IT]

What happened to the dinner promised by you Tikay for all blondites out in Vegas?
I missed mine so can you forward the cheque A.S.A.P please.

[Ironside]

What happened to the dinner promised by you Tikay for all blondites out in Vegas?
I missed mine so can you forward the cheque A.S.A.P please.

he donated the cost to P4C

[I KNOW IT]

Ironside, can you please let Tikay answer now and again as he hasnt got your razor sharp responses.

[Ironside]

sorry tikay sometimes doesnt reply for a week or 2 he is busy man and i am just sat here bored out my mind trying not to blow my 53k stack in a sat

[tikay]

I donated the cost to P4C.

I am forever indebted to Ironside for his help & support of blonde. I am dead busy, at times I cant keep an eye on the Forum, he helps out. For free. And we shall add a few more moderators soon. He gets slagged off something shocking at times, on blonde's behalf, but he's a big man, and a strong man, and a brave man. I have no problem saying that. He's a hero of mine, and an example to all of use.

[I KNOW IT]

have you got a little icon which i can put next to my postings which says " only joking by the way ", as I know i get confused with being serious at times.
Mind you i get confused most of the times