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« on: August 10, 2005, 10:48:04 AM »

I was playing on Party earlier and someone typed in a link into the chat box claiming he could make me thousands a month!  I couldn't resist taking a peek.  The blatantly fake testimonials at the end of the page are side splittingly tacky!
Has anyone ever subscribed to any of these sorts of things - would be interested to know opinions. - I imagine they are shite.  And who is Rob Eagle anyway?!! (the esteemed Author)

http://www.beatppnow.com/
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2005, 11:09:11 AM »

Cousin of bald eagle soars away Angry

Another schmuck hooking book. Let me see..sure fire winning strategy on a site you play....and you would then sell a book which would ensure that evryone else could come and play your system on your site and beat you....doh!
and if he was that good he`d be showing his on line account of to prove it was legit -

love these adds.....makes me laugh!
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2005, 11:20:18 AM »

You have to smile! 

I've also noticed an increase in the number of "we will sponsor you to play poker" affiliate scams as well.   All you have to do is sign up to some poker room via this link and they will monitor you for 1 month.   If you make the grade we will sponsor your bank roll .....blah de blah!


No luck in the 500 then Jnr?
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2005, 11:24:10 AM »

no jim.
was going ok but just went dead for hours (and i mean DEAD) - grrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Finally found a couple of hands in a short space of time and had to put 2 of them down to re-raises.  I then became the target of the table as i got low and they had seen me put down hands so i just got fed up and shoved it all in when reraised for the 3rd time in 5 hands - took my stand with 10-10 and the re-raiser had A-J!!!!! - you know the rest!

nice to meet you though - see you round i guess.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2005, 12:38:25 PM »

Here is some of the book (too big to post all here its 74k characters) ebook, enjoy! admin delete if you need too..... its just bollox really i got it over a year ago on ebay (dont ask me why).

Party Poker Cracked
This is what you have been waiting for so lets get right to it. This is not
some 400-page book that will bore you. It is designed to be brief, effective,
and to be easily mastered.
Please note the Poker Charts, as you should refer to them often while
reading this and playing. I personally have it printed out and taped to the
wall next to my computer for easy reference when I gamble online.
When I go to the casino and play limit Texas Holdem I usually win 4 out of
5 times. I play tight and aggressive. When I first started playing online I
couldnt believe how diverse the players and the cards were. I was winning 1
out of 5 sessions online. What a joke I thought. I know I am good but why
am I losing so much?
Due to privacy, I will not tell anyone how much money I made on
Party Poker.com last year but I can tell you that my play money account is
over 60 million dollars!
Please note, that this book is based on my experience and opinion of Party
Poker. I am not, nor have ever been affiliated or employed by any casino or
any online casino at any time!
When utilizing the information presented in this book, you agree to do so at
your own risk. The author and other parties affiliated assume no liability in
the outcomes of your gambling.
I would like to assure that if you only learn and retain just a few of the
strategies in this book, it can more than pay for itself, and I think you will
have a much better time playing online poker with this knowledge.
Get your priorities straight. In my opinion, the ONLY thing that matters in
poker is winning chips. Its not singling a player out and having an ego
battle. Its not losing most hands just to say you were strong enough to stay
in. The only winners at the end of any session are the ones who walk away
with more chips than they started with!.4
Please do yourself a favor and focus on learning the repeating pattern
cycles. The only way to do that effectively is to write down every starting
hand you have and keep track of ALL of your wins and losses.
I strongly recommend doing this on PLAY MONEY FIRST for at least 40
hours.
It will be time well spent and will really prepare you for REAL MONEY
with these new strategies!!!!
I must stress that in real life, playing no limit poker, I would not dream of
using some of these strategies. Although, I am not a known professional
poker player, I am definitely good enough to make a great living playing
poker.
You are most likely aware (mathematically) of how to properly bet with
certain hands in Hold'em.
Please remember this book is a strategy to use Party Poker's flawed
algorithm (shuffling pattern) against it. That means sometimes betting on
rags (garbage hands), and sometimes placing improper betting amounts.
That means this system is SOMETIMES diametrically opposed to real life
betting strategies in some situations.
Have no fear, because not only does this system work, but you can test this
on play money for as long as it takes, before you get the hang of it. Certain
positions, you should gladly lay down even pocket Aces. I know that must
sound crazy, but the only way for you to realize those situations is to
practice using these strategies.
Most of the time, you are going to want to use sound playing methods, BUT
if you want to take advantage sometimes you will not..5
If you enjoy playing poker on Party Poker.com and have discovered the
undeniable level of uncertainty in securing more consistent victories, then
please allow me to assure you that there is NOT everything is random about
Party Poker.com
In fact, the only thing that is consistent in online gaming is the fact that it is
not always truly random. The cards follow undeniable patterns over and over
again. In my opinion, this algorithm ensures that online gaming continues to
attract and retain the largest percentage of players.
Not only could you increase your winnings per session when playing No
Limit Texas Hold'em on Party Poker.com, but also you could minimize your
losses by applying this knowledge.
This book can help you win consistently when gambling online, playing
ALL TYPES of poker on ALL TYPES of online casinos. After applying the
principles in this book you should be much better off and find your way to
the top.
Introduction
Poker is an amazing game. It allows you to have many freedoms with
virtually any style of play that you choose. Your personality definitely and
inevitably comes out on the board. The reality is however that there are only
a few playing methods that will ever achieve profitability. Many poker
players that play often and whom play often with the same people can
become very predictable. But, Its the best players that are the ones who
always keep you guessing. They change gears often and more often. Just
when you think they are bluffing, they are holding the nuts, just when you
think they have an incredible hand they are holding a hand that isnt worth
the ink printed on the cards. After its all said and done they are the ones
holding the chips and you might be the one left holding the bag.
This book is based on a system that has helped yours truly become
highly successful in the world of online poker. As it turns out the system is
strictly for PartyPoker.com because of the algorithm (shuffling pattern).
However, this book can help you become successful in poker on virtually.6
any online casino. The reason is that I will touch on all points of playing
winning poker. The last part of this book is devoted to gaining an
additional edge (a mind blowing edge, good thing you found this book)
on Party Poker that to my knowledge you cant get anywhere else!!! Did
you know that only 5% of all poker players ever make money consistently? I
dont say win money because win implies luck. Yes poker has some
luck, but skill and odds will overcome luck overtime all the time.
Winning gambling is all about having an edge. If you dont have an
edge and you still want to gamble you might as well take your entire
bankroll and head to Vegas. Dont waste any time, just hop onto a roulette
table and bet the entire amount on black. You almost have a 50/50 chance
of winning minus the Houses edge of course and see what happens. At
least it would save time for some of the poker players I have seen, they
would even get better odds doing that than they would ever get playing
poker.
I dont recommend you do anything like that of course, but its an
interesting point. Winners take educated risks, not blind ones. A winner in
poker is the one who has the chips and nothing else. Its not the pots, its not
the ego, it is the chips. No matter what your playing level, there is something
in this book that can and will improve your game if properly applied. Lets
learn how to make and keep those chips.
Let me assure you that it is totally possible to make money on
PartyPoker.com without the use of this system. However using sound tight
aggressive play coupled with this pattern system can give you an edge unlike
no other. This edge can be unparalleled and can make a huge difference in
your outcomes.
The first part of this book is devoted to bringing you up to par and
helping you to become the great online player you should be if youre not
already. The second part is how to turn Party Pokers algorithm (shuffling
pattern) greatly in your favor..7
Part 1
Chapter 1
The differences between online poker, casino poker, and home games.8
Money
There are many differences between online poker, casino poker, and
home games. In a home game you might just play strictly with cash. It can
make you stop and think before you call a $15 raise and have to physically
put three more $5 bills into a pot just to see one card that may not even help
your hand.
In real life at the casino and sometimes at a home game, you usually
have to buy chips with real hard cash. There is a certain shift that occurs
when this happens. It is psychologically easier to throw three $5 chips into a
pot than three $5 bills. Chips make counting and stacking a lot easier but
they also disassociate you from real hard cash.
Real money can once again become clear for a brief time as soon as
you have to buy more chips with real hard cash. It always makes you think
when you have to reach into your pocket or purse and grab your wallet.
In an online casino, its usually just a matter of using a credit card or
sending a money order/wire transfer to the online casino to get your virtual
bankroll started. There are no real chips, just icons that represent chips,
which are in fact virtual numbers. You must have an even greater discipline
to respect your money in this scenario.
Time
In fact, you dont even have to push the chips onto the table to make a
bet, call a raise, etc. etc. All you do is click a mouse button and your done. It
can be done so fast that if you dont take a breath; its easy to have your
judgment thrown off by emotion.
Your play is magnified on an internet casino. One main reason is that
the cards and hands are played so much faster. There is very little physical.9
movement, as all you have to do is point and click the mouse. It literally
takes seconds. In real life there is the physical motion of picking chips up,
counting chips, and placing them in the appropriate place. This all takes
additional time and fortunately can help you when having to make a
decision.
There is no real dealer in online poker other than an icon representing
a dealer. That means no tipping. At a $1 or $2 tip per win, this can save your
bankroll a lot of money.
The rake still exists and actually varies depending on the online casino
you choose to play at. The rake should be considered because after all said
and done if you break-even while playing, the rake would eventually take all
of your money over time.
When there is a rake involved in poker it is your responsibility to find
and play with players that you are better than. A home game is the only
exception as there typically is no rake.
If your in a heads up game online and your opponent is almost equal
to you in playing ability, then you are both going to break even most of the
time with each other, and find your bankroll slipping away to the houses
rake.
On average, an online poker game will move three times as fast as a
real casino. That means your weaknesses will be magnified three times. That
means the rake is three times as much. Of course youre still getting three
times as many hands for you money. For some players however this can be
catastrophic. What seems like hours for someone to call a raise may in
reality only take seconds in online poker. It so easy to get used to this faster
type of play that you can easily lose perspective on the real amount of time
passed.
To go to a real casino takes planning. For some of you it might entail
a flight, for others a lengthy drive. The time that it takes to get to the casino
can be very helpful for your mindset because it psychologically forces to
give you time to prepare.
In an online casino, you can play it right in your own home. What
might take an hour or so to get to the local casino or a day or so for some of
you, others can get into a Holdem game online for real money in one.10
minute or less. You dont have to shower and shave or change your clothes.
You simply have to click a few buttons and your ready to play. There may
be no transition of mind set at all. If your in a bad mood or good mood,
happy or sad, you will most likely stay in that mood while you are playing
until you have time to adjust. If its a problem mood, it might cost you an
arm and a leg during that transition.
Whenever I am driving to a casino, I typically look in the rearview
mirror and smile at myself. I then say your going to win tonight. I do this
several times during the drive providing it is safe. In essence I pump and
psyche myself up. Its one way I personally prepare for poker. I have found
that when I expect to do well at something I usually do. If I am angry or
have problems on my mind it definitely affects my game and not in a good
way.
Distractions
Distractions will kill your bankroll. There can be 10 times as many
distractions from your home as there can be in a real casino.
Here is a list of the most common home distractions that should be
addressed and dealt with if you expect to play poker well.
The list can go on and one. Sometimes it seems like as soon as I
escape into the virtual world to play a few hands, I become bombarded by
the impossible. My phone rings off the hook. My favorite song is on. I
remember the movie I wanted to watch is starting on cable. I get a business
call. My girlfriend says I dont give her enough attention. My parents call
wanting to know when I am going to visit them. The FedEx guy knocks on
my door etc. etc.
Imagine flopping a nut flush and 4 th street pairs the board. You have
to analyze your opponent and decide if he has a full boat. With five other
distractions hitting you at once, how are you going to make a good
judgment? Even as I am writing these words my puppy (shes a pug) just
jumped on my lap and is demanding attention. Do I throw her off my lap? I
love animals so I gently put her down on the floor. Now shes staring at me
with a sad look on her face and I am beginning to feel guilty. I am glad I am
not in a tough hand of poker right now as it could be just enough of a
distraction to make the wrong call..11
I love a smooth drink just like the next guy. Have a couple of those
and win a few hands while playing poker and youll feel like youre on top
of the world. Give it 30 minutes and you can watch your bankroll run for the
hills. For me poker is so much fun and I live to play it that I never used to
think of it as work. The bottom line though is that if you want to win and
win consistently, then you have to treat poker like your job and treat it with
respect. Whether youre in a home game, casino game, or virtual game;
alcohol and drugs should be avoided completely if you expect to win. Now
if you have a few buddies over and your all drinking having a good time and
playing poker, then so be it. Enjoy yourselves. But dont expect to break all
of your friends especially if they arent bad players.
Below is a list of the three types of games and their potential
distractions. Just think if you have encountered any of these in the past and
how you could best deal with them to keep from getting distracted in the
future.
Home Game
Alcohol/Drugs
Smoking
Friends
Other people watching
Music
TV
The opposite sex
Real Cash
Home Games w/ variations such as wild cards.
Real Casino
Alcohol/Drugs
Music
TVs
Hot Cocktail Waitresses
Lights
Noises
Other Gambling games like Black Jack and slots.12
Virtual Casino played from a computer
Alcohol/Drugs
Smoking
Home Phone
Business Line
Cell Phone
Television
Radio
Spouse
Roommate
Parents
Dogs
Cats
Multi Tasking on other computer programs
Playing two or three tables at once
Email
Neighbors
Door Bell
Playing while Working
I am not going to address each of these possible distractions
individually, but these are many of the ones I have encountered in the past
that have managed to affect my game play. Distractions will affect every
player differently and of course it also depends on the type of distraction. If
your roommate calls you up and tells you your rent check bounced, I can
only imaging that would have an impact on your game.
Youve got to be in the moment. Distractions threaten to take you out
of it. So lets readdress this. When playing at home online you can have
three times as many distractions, you can play three times faster than ever
possible before since its all click of the mouse, and you can even play three
tables or more at the same time..13
It doesnt take a bean counter to understand that this is a recipe for
disaster. I know several people who can play well at a real casino, but when
it comes to online casinos their playing ability goes way down. You may be
one of the best poker players out there, but with enough things working
against you, you might be chopped liver in the virtual world.
So whats the solution? Ill tell you what works for me. I do this out of
necessity, because it works. The changes seemed unbearable to me at first,
but after a few weeks I never looked back, and my wins have only grown
since.
I turn off all of the ringers and announcements on all of my phones
(home phone, business line, and cell). I disable my email so that it only gives
me new messages when I reboot the mail server. I feed and walk my dog,
then run him up and down the street to exhaust him. I feed the cat and clean
her cat litter. I call my girlfriend talk to her for what seems like hours and
then let her know I am going to be M.I.A for a little while due to getting a
business matter resolved.
I literally attach a do not disturb note on my door. I close my blinds.
I turn my lights up and away from the computer so there is no glare. I
position my betting and odds chart for easy viewing. I turn off the TV. I turn
off the radio.

and fade to the summery -

This is not a very large book because it is simply the guts. Absorb this and
you could crack Party Poker TOO. Remember Party poker is interested in
one thing. That is your money. Their algorithm produces the most money
possible. Youll be able to witness some extraordinary things on PP. Like
when a player who has $10 goes all in with 7,8 off suit and 2 people call
with AA and KK only to watch the all in player get 4 . Happens quite
frequently.
I cant tell you what a good feeling it is to get positive feedback from
someone like yourself who applies the knowledge of this book and makes it
happen for them selves. I love success stories, so please share them with me.
I recommend that you spend no less than 40 hours of playing with Play
Money mastering these techniques before going to real money. You have
to be very disciplined to play this way, and for some of you it might take
awhile to change from your normal playing patterns. I hope to see you on the
tables soon with the new strategies provided in this book..63
Best of knowledge
Robert Eagle

the guy is clearly a genius

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2005, 12:56:26 PM »

yup, just as i thought. a way to massage his own ego and talk shite!
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2005, 01:03:03 PM »

Distractions

Home Game.
Alcohol/Drugs
Smoking
Friends
Other people watching
Music
TV
The opposite sex
Real Cash
Home Games w/ variations such as wild cards.
Real Casino
Alcohol/Drugs
Music
TVs
Hot Cocktail Waitresses
Lights
Noises
Other Gambling games like Black Jack and slots.12
Virtual Casino played from a computer
Alcohol/Drugs
Smoking
Home Phone
Business Line
Cell Phone
Television
Radio
Spouse
Roommate
Parents
Dogs
Cats
Multi Tasking on other computer programs
Playing two or three tables at once
Email
Neighbors
Door Bell
Playing while Working

I am not going to address each of these possible distractions
individually,


Imagine the length of this rubbish if he did decide to address these individually. Come on then, who has the most distractions.....? Grin Grin

I can sign up to 16, but he didn't include lapdancers. That would make it 17.
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2005, 01:29:23 PM »

Oh it goes on like that. His claim to win is to spot patterns in the PP random shuffle - its comical.

But he does warn you near the end! -

***** This system does NOT work on larger no limit tables. The reason is simple.
You will not see very many flops. Therefore, it will become difficult if not impossible
to track patterns.
1. Patterns and cycles are simply another edge that can make a huge
difference in your outcomes.
2. This system is designed to help you win an extra 3-5 hands per 2-3 hour
session and that's it.
3. This system is designed to help you also not lose an extra 5-10 hands
per session as well by being prudent and laying down incredible starters
like k,k A,ks when you are out of cycle, pattern, and position.
4. When I say cash out I mean withdrawing funds from the casino, and then
re-depositing. Theres no reason to cash out your entire bankroll. Typically
its best to cash out 25%.
5. This system is based on Party Pokers algorithm. (A fancy word for
shuffling process.) Playing poker is not my full time job anymore because I
am involved in several businesses. I have many hobbies and interests in
life and poker is just one of them. I wrote this book because I feel people
need to know that in my opinion Party poker's algorithm is not truly
random. The sub patterns that exist are also truly beyond random in my
opinion.
6. I am not concerned if Party Poker or any other poker casino is
investigating me because there is nothing wrong or illegal with
using this system.
7. I only discovered these patterns because I was truly sick of winning
$400-$500 in a night and then losing all or most of it the next night due to
unexplainable BAD BEATS. This went on for what seemed like ages. It
seemed like I could never get ahead, and now I know why!
8. I hope this has helped you. and I would love a testimonial from you
providing that you can make the system work too.

he includes historys to bulk up the work -

Lets start with a real win loss chart made up of several sessions.
For illustration purposes we are going to call ties Wins.
W = Win L = Loss
Session 1:
Hand 1 Loss
2 three diamonds L
3 L
4 three clubs L
5 L Big Blind
6 L Small Blind
7 L Dealer
8 three diamonds Win with a pair of
9 L
10 two hearts Win straight (possible win see below for
explanation)
11 Ah L
12 L
13 L BB
14 10c L SB
15 L Dlr
16 L
17 QD Huh? NO FLOP I FOLDED
18 L
19 two hearts L
20 ? folded to an all in PROBABLE WIN no flop
21 (these hands lose 90% of the time unless on cycle)
22 L
23 Win tied with a straight
24 10h L BB
25 Two Diamonds L SB
26 Ah L Dlr
27 Two Diamonds L
28 L.49
29 L
30 two hearts L
31 As Loss played to flop (I wouldve played out if 10 th
hand, I had an open end straight draw that DIDNT hit by the
way.) It was the 8 th hand from the last win. Will be explained
later.
32 10c L
33 10s WINNER with a pair of (its clock work)
34 three diamonds L
35 Two Clubs L
36 Win 2 pair $52 pot
37 10h L
38 Ah Win As
39 two hearts 10c L
40 three diamonds L
41 Win Straight $47 pot Explanation below follow this
chart carefully
42 AA Loss Didnt even call a $6 bet
43 three clubs L
44 10s L
45 10h L
46 L
47 two spades L
48 As L
49 10h L
50 L
51 10d 10h L No set flopped, I folded wouldve lost anyways
52 Winner Large preflop bet I folded Wouldve had
straight
53 L
54 Ah Winner but I folded a $40 preflop bet (stay sane)
55 kc L
Session 2:
1 2D QC L
2 AD 5C Win.50
3 5H 10C L
4 7S8C L
5 9C JD TIED
6 8C 10H Win but folded
7 10D JD Win
8 4D 7C Win
9 10C 8S Win but Im sure the hand was 2 nd or 3 rd best
(Bluff)
10 L
11 8S 10D L
12 3H 7H L
13 QS 7C L
14 2H 9H L
15 AC 5H L
16 10H 4H L
17 Two Clubs 10d L
18 5D 2H L
19 JS QS Tie (but folded) 10 th win from last win!!!!
Whenever this happens you can bet I am going
to consider betting on the next tenth hand even
If I have something as terrible as an 8,3 offsuit.
(at least if I can get in with a cheap flop!!!)
20 KH JC L
21 4S 10C L
22 JC 3C L
23 3S 8D L
24 7S 9C L
25 5C 2D L
26 5H JH L
27 9H 8C L
28 JCKC L
29 KS 4S WIN  10 th hand again by the way!
30 10s two spades L
31 AS 10D L
32 9D4D L
33 5H7H L
34 QH 4C L
35 6S 2D L
36 4S JD L
37 3H 5S L
38 3C 4S L.51
39 7S JH TIE!!! 10 th hand again by the way! Terrible
starting hand but I called to the flop and chased
(I WAS DEFINITELY IN PATTERN)and
ended up with a straight.
Sometimes it takes a few rounds to recognize
the current pattern.
A great example would be that if a 4,9 offsuit
would have won and it was the 12 th hand since a
win, you can bet the farm that I would be willing
to see the flop on the following 12 th hand even if I
had rags. Another important thing to note is that
a winning pattern cycle typically only lasts
a few times. Like 2-4 to be exact, and then it
switches to another cycle. So, you might have a
Cycle that wins on the 10 th hand 3 or 4 times in a
row, and then you might lose 15-20 hands, and
then youll probably have a few sub cycles, and
then the pattern will typically go to something like
every 12 th hand or 11 th hand, etc.
40 AS 5C L
41 AS 7H WOULDVE WON but folded
42 10D QH L
43 4H 3H L
44 KC KH Win Do you recognize the sub cycle? The last 3
winning hands were 2 sub cycles. W L W and
W L L W !!!!!
45 10H 2S L
46 7S 5D L
47 3D 5S L
48 10H 9D Win This is a little tricky. Notice a W L L L W
sub cycle, This is ALSO the 9 th hand won since
the last 10 th hand cycle ended. Do you see that?
Keep reading, it should make sense. Always try
To be aware if you are in a sub cycle, a main.52
cycle, or rarely possibly both.
49 2C2H L
50 JD 5H L
51 6S 4C L
52 4D 10D L
53 10c L
54 L
55 9C JH L
56 QH 5C L
57 7S JD Win huge bonus because I paid attention to a
possible new main cycle. Sure enough it hit.
9 th hand cycle again wins with a straight
and another rags starting hand.
58 JH 10H Win Another 10 th hand Win
59 4S 6S L
60 JC 6S L
61 AC 8C Win Another sub cycle. W L L W
62 KC 5H L
63 10H 6S L
64 KS 3D L
65 5D 3D L
66 6S 5S Win I folded this hand due to a large pre flop
bet. But, I certainly paid attention that it was on
a 5 th hand since a win and sure enough 5 hands
later..
(BY THE WAY, I STILL WRITE DOWN
EVERY HAND AS I PLAY. ITS THE ONLY
WAY TO ACCUTRATELY KEEP TRACK OF
THE CYCLES THAT I KNOW OF.)
67 QD 5C L
68 QD JS L
69 AC 3S L
70 2S 6S L
71 6D 5S Win 5 TH hand again. Not a very good starting
hand I must add. But who cares, it was in cycle,
and cheap enough for me to get a flop to watch
this hand develop into a full house and take out
a straight and a flush for the largest pot I won
in that nights session!
72 10C 3S L
73 JH AS Win Sub cycle W L W Now the pattern fell.53
apart because it was hard to pick up on for
20- 30 or so hands as shown below.
74 4C AD L
75 KS 6H L
76 JD 7S L
77 4C 9C L
78 6S 9H L
79 2S 3H L
80 KH 9H Win but I believe it was lost so I paused
and bluffed a large bet. He folded. So I
am not sure if it was a true winner.
81 4H 2C W but no consistent identifiable pattern!
82 QD 7C L
83 10C 6D L
84 10D QD L
85 10D 8D L
86 2D 9D L
87 QH JS L
88 6C 10D L
89 10H 6C L
90 JD 3C L
91 7C 6D Win Phew, finally. I am still not 100% sure if I
am in pattern yet because the last two hands
won were very cloudy. My guess is obviously
10 th or 11 th cycle. We shall soon see it was the
11 th and fortunately my 11 th following hand
was a J,9 Suited making it easier to get
involved with the hand!
92 2C 6D L
93 10S 7C L
94 8D 6D L
95 10H 8S L
96 3H 4S L
97 10H 4C L
98 QH 9D L
99 7H 7C L
100 JC 3S L
101 JH 7S L
102 JC 9C Win 11 TH Hand
103 3S3H L
104 3H 9D L.54
105 9S JH L
106 3C AC L
107 9H 8D L
108 6S 10H L
109 9D AC L
110 JD 3C L
111 AS QC L
112 QS 2D L
113 10C 7S Win 11 TH Hand
114 9H 3S L
115 6D 3D L
Session 3:
1 L
2 three clubs L
3 Two Diamonds two spades L
4 Win 4 th Hand
5 QsJh Win 5 th Hand
6 AsJd L
7 three diamonds Win 7 th Hand
8 Win 8 th Hand Note how these wins came two in
a row each time. Always track from the first
win to the last. The pattern here is every 4 th .
9 three clubs L
10 L
11 Two Clubs L
12 Ah Win 12 th Hand so 4 th 8 th 12 th
13 L knew this hand wouldnt hit. I got in the flop
relatively cheap but when the flop had an Ace on
board I knew it was time to run.
14 L
15 two spades three diamonds L
16 Win 16 th Hand so 4 th 8 th 12 th 16 th Its interesting
to note that after a run like this. I am not
expecting to win many more hands for quite
some time. I also know that the patterns will be
some time before they surface as I am now most
likely in a Pay In cycle.
17 L.55
18 Two Clubs L
19 10d L
20 L
21 kc L
22 two spades L
23 L
24 two spades L
25 three diamonds L
26 ks5s L
27 QdQs L Not a bad starter but I didnt play it aggressively.
Hand wouldve lost anyways.
28 L
29 10h L
30 10c two hearts L
31 three diamonds L
32 L
33 three diamonds L
34 Possible win. I was in early position with a
decent raise so I didnt play this hand. If I was
in an identifiable pattern, I would have
definitely given this hand a shot.
35 Ah L
36 10h Win I was in mid position and with no huge
raises I correctly stayed in and even won.
Didnt need a Pattern for that.
37 10h L
38 two spades L
39 L
40 10h L
41 L
42 L
43 L
44 L
45 L
46 L
47 L
48 two spades L
49 Two Clubs L
50 10h L
51 L
52 L.56
53 three clubs L
54 L
55 Two Diamonds L
56 L
57 L
58 Ah L
59 two spades L
60 Win Not a trackable hand but in Mid position
with few raises this is a great hand.
61 10d L
62 L
63 Win
64 L
65 L
66 L
67 L
68 L
69 L
70 two spades L
71 L
72 Win
73 two spades L
74 two hearts L
75 10s L
76 three diamonds The rest of the hands at this table only had one
more trackable pattern at the 147 th hand which
was two wins in patterns of 10. If the patterns
dissolve its still fine to stay in the game if the
players are still weak.
Session 4:
1 Two Clubs L
2 L
3 10s L
4 10d Two Clubs L
5 L
6 two spades three clubs L
7 L
8 three diamonds L
9 L.57
10 L
11 L
12 two spades L
13 Win 13 th
14 two hearts L
15 L
16 L
17 10s L
18 L
19 10c L
20 L
21 As L
22 Ah L
23 Two Clubs L
24 Win This was a late position hand, and
although its the 25 th hand and not the 26 th
hand like a pattern would suggest, I had
a strong feeling it would win because several
players had come and gone. When that happens
the pattern can definitely be thwarted a little
bit. It is definitely something to keep in mind.
25 three diamonds L
26 L
27 L
28 10s L
29 Win. I didnt play these rags, but it wouldve
been a full boat. Not in pattern.
30 L
31 QcQs Loss
32 10s 10d Loss
33 L
34 10s Win. I didnt play this garbage as I was also
in early position.
35 Two Diamonds L
36 two hearts 10s L
37 10h L
38 Win. I didnt play this either but it wouldve
won to make a flush. I smiled though because
I knew that this was a 4 th 8 th hand and sure
Enough I played my 12 th hand which was
Marginal at best an not in a good position..58
39 Two Clubs L
40 two spades L
41 L
42 Win this was the 12 th hand from a 4 th 8 th 12 th
pattern.
43 two spades L
44 L
45 L
46 10h 10c Win. A great hand good position and in
pattern. I won a great pot with it too.

and dont forget blondeites -

Algorithm:
An online casinos algorithm is man made by a programmer.
A program (The algorithm) is responsible for the shuffling of the
cards. ALL programs have deterministic value. Therefore it is
possible to simulate randomness but NEVER to achieve it.
Party Pokers algorithm can be predictable sometimes.
Explanation:
The main patterns to look for repeat often in sets of three. For
example, you win the 9 th hand from when you sit down. You will most
likely win the 18 th hand and 27 th hand (providing you bet on them). Its also
possible for the pattern to win the 8 th hand 16 th hand and 24 th hand. Etc, etc.
Obviously at different times.
All you have to do is note which hands youve won or wouldve won.
Of course you need loose enough tables that see most of the flops. Also, if
you have a table where people are coming and going constantly, this will
naturally affect the pattern..46
The patterns come in sets of twos all the way to sets of fives. Most of
the time, they are in sets of threes however.
In my experience, you have about the first 200 hands to be able to
consistently track the patterns. After that it is time to move into another
table. If the table your at is weak and your making a killing, then theres no
reason to leave, just rely more on your playing abilities than the patterns
which may not be identifiable.
Also, patterns are trackable about 2/3 of the time. That means that if
you go to 3 tables and only stay at each table for 200 hands, you will be able
to track patterns on 2 out of those 3 tables.
This edge has helped me in tough situations and hits more than it
doesnt hit. The pattern could be the 5 th hand 10 th hand 15 th hand or the 12 th
hand 24 th hand 36 th hand. Simply write down every hand and pay extreme
close attention.
Sometimes I will be in a table and I will recognize that the 7 th hand
won, the 14 th hand won and now I am on the 18 th hand with pocket Aces. I
would be very hesitant to bet those Aces All In as I realize I am outside of
the tables pattern. If my pocket aces fell on the 21 st hand I would be very
excited. Not only do I have a great hand, but I am also in line with the
repeatable patterns. In that example, the pattern is of . So 7 th hand 14 th
hand, 21 st hand.
After the 21 st hand I would expect to have to look for and note a
different pattern. It may jump to 12 th hand 24 th hand etc. As far as the pattern
is concerned I always start counting from the last hand I won.
I truly believe over time even in PP, you can only expect to have the
best hand 1 out of 10 times with 10 total players at the table. So if you win
the 4 th hand 8 th hand 12 th hand and the 16 th hand, you have had you share of
wins and may have to wait 50-200 hands to start winning again and get back
on a recognizable pattern. Usually its not that extreme, however it does
happen.
The pattern could be as small as every other hand winning 4 times in a
row. So the 2 nd hand 4 th hand 6 th hand 8 th hand all winning. Another thing to
note is when you win two hands in a row. When your at a table and winning.47
two hands in a row, that is another pattern and as you win again, you will
win two hands in a row quite often(providing your betting the hands).
So, if I just won with my pocket jacks and now I have 8,10 suited, you
bet I am going to be willing to see a flop (if its cheap enough) even in early
position.
I have found its most profitable to rely on the patterns and my good
play. If I have 2,5 off suit and I am in early position with a huge raise, I may
lay that hand down even if my notes indicate I am in a pattern hand. I prefer
to have as many things as possible go my way when it comes to a hand.
The patterns are just one more huge edge to add to your arsenal. It is
possible to only play patterns and not even bother looking at the cards, but
you have to be one patient and disciplined person to pull it off. The reason
why is you would only bet on the second pattern set (3 rd potential win) each
time from your notes. Realistically you would only be betting on 8-10 hands
in a 2-3 hour period. For online that could seem very, very boring.
Its also important to note that sometimes you will win in broken up
patterns of say 10 or 11. An example would be that the 10 th hand wins then
the 20 th then the 22 nd then the 32 nd and the 42 nd . So you win in patterns of
10 but it is split up a little. If you cant tell its a pattern and your hands not
that great, or theres a huge pre-flop raise just get out of the hand. It doesnt
cost anything to fold.
I win more money playing my tight, sound, aggressive game coupled
with pattern recognition then just doing either one alone. Not to mention I
have a great time doing it.
If you only win one extra hand per hour and lay down one extra hand
per hour, your outcomes will be vastly different and much more profitable.
It is important to note that there are sub cycles. Sub cycles are like
Win,Win or Win,Loss,Win or Win,Loss,Loss,Win. When these happen you
are most likely on a payout cycle. Youre usually better off playing your
hands and not the patterns in these situations. They can be very hard to track.
Winning these many hands in a short time will surely be profitable anyways..


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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2005, 01:39:13 PM »

obviously i haven't been tracking my loss sub cycles and sub algorithmic alphabytes - oh and i haven't been going all in every tenth hand following a sequence of WLLW if i lose the ninth hand after a ten hand super sub cycle - must remember to do that next time.  Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?


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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2005, 01:47:05 PM »

I know. Isn't it the funniest load of codswallop ever!  Grin Cheesy Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2005, 01:57:23 PM »

obviously i haven't been tracking my loss sub cycles and sub algorithmic alphabytes - oh and i haven't been going all in every tenth hand following a sequence of WLLW if i lose the ninth hand after a ten hand super sub cycle - must remember to do that next time. Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?


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Wonder what happens if you win the 1st hand you play? Do you win everyone? Grin
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2005, 02:02:13 PM »

Junior  if you had been subbing your alphabetical submarine rhythmic unicycles like it said you would also be able to boast.....


 ........my play money account is over 60 million dollars!


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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2005, 10:07:43 PM »

yr has to go on the blonde roll of honour.

Why?

Longest single post in forum history, a feat unlikely ever to be broken unless Red-Dog is waxing especially lyrical or Ironside is doing a write up of his visit to the lapdancers....

and the play money being up 60m? hilarious!!

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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2005, 10:30:13 AM »

I only cut n paste the doc! Please don't associate me with that drivel! I was trying to show all how crap it is so no-one wastes their dough. It is also sooooo unintentionally funny, I thought you all might appreciate it!
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