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Question: Who would you like to see as next captain?  (Voting closed: July 10, 2006, 03:33:50 AM)
Terry - 17 (35.4%)
Gerrard - 26 (54.2%)
Neville - 3 (6.3%)
A.Cole - 0 (0%)
Rooney - 2 (4.2%)
Total Voters: 48

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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2006, 01:37:55 PM »

Rooney?!?!?!?! Captain?!?!?!?

Do me a favour!!

In a few years I think he'll be an amazing captain.

Beckham didn't exactly have tempremant 8 years ago. Gerrard didn't but 4 years ago. Rooney just needs to grow up a little.
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2006, 01:46:32 PM »

Rooney?!?!?!?! Captain?!?!?!?

Do me a favour!!

In a few years I think he'll be an amazing captain.

Beckham didn't exactly have tempremant 8 years ago.

And look how far the England team has progressed since Beckham took over...........
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2006, 01:51:20 PM »

Rooney?!?!?!?! Captain?!?!?!?

Do me a favour!!

In a few years I think he'll be an amazing captain.

Beckham didn't exactly have tempremant 8 years ago. Gerrard didn't but 4 years ago. Rooney just needs to grow up a little.

When has Beckham ever been a captain? A captain has to lead.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2006, 02:04:39 PM »

Rooney?!?!?!?! Captain?!?!?!?

Do me a favour!!

In a few years I think he'll be an amazing captain.

Beckham didn't exactly have tempremant 8 years ago. Gerrard didn't but 4 years ago. Rooney just needs to grow up a little.

When has Beckham ever been a captain? A captain has to lead.

and THE most important think about leading is having respect, which he had/has..... I honestly don't think a different captain would have had any better fortunes, the only issue being that it kept him in the side when maybe he shouldnt have been - but his name alone may have done that anyway.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2006, 02:09:32 PM »

Rooney?!?!?!?! Captain?!?!?!?

Do me a favour!!

In a few years I think he'll be an amazing captain.

Beckham didn't exactly have tempremant 8 years ago.

And look how far the England team has progressed since Beckham took over...........

Fair comment but how influential is Rooney compared to Beckham in footballing terms?
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2006, 02:46:36 PM »

Steven Gerrard should be the England captain.
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2006, 02:51:14 PM »

john terry without a doubt.

i have watched him since he was 17yo and even at an early stage he had leadership qualities.
he is very much like tony adams, a leader of men in the frontline of action not asking anyone to do anything he wouldnt do himself.

steven gerrard is a world class player and our best midfielder and when the chips are down pulls up his sleeves and gets himself going but im not sure if he can get others going around him like JT can.

2010 john terry lifts the world cup for england!
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2006, 02:54:46 PM »


Fair comment but how influential is Rooney compared to Beckham in footballing terms?

At the moment way below, at least Beckham has world cup goals to his name - how many has Rooney scored in both qualifying and finals games?

Answer: 0
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2006, 02:55:39 PM »

Since Houllier made Gerrard Liverpool's captain he has improved as a player ten-fold. Also, Gerrard is Englands best midfielder and the 2nd person on the team sheet after Rooney. Where as Terry hasnt put in any great performences for England and isnt even guaranteed his startin place as much as Gerrard.
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2006, 03:03:02 PM »

Since Houllier made Gerrard Liverpool's captain he has improved as a player ten-fold. Also, Gerrard is Englands best midfielder and the 2nd person on the team sheet after Rooney. Where as Terry hasnt put in any great performences for England and isnt even guaranteed his startin place as much as Gerrard.

john terry is the first defender on the team sheet.
maybe he hasnt put any "great" performances for england but he has been very consistent in an england shirt.
neither had a great world cup and terry made a couple of uncharecteristic mistakes. but you have to look at the wider picture. he consistently performs for chelsea and england and if he hadnt performed in the first game against paraguay we wouldnt have proggressed through the group stages in this world cup.

gerrard has hardly set the world alight in an england shirt and if he needs the honour of being captain to improve this like you say he has at liverpool then imo he is the wrong player for the role.

terry is a leader with or without the armband.
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2006, 03:08:52 PM »

Do you know why there is so much debate on this?

Because there is absolutelty nothing between them in their CV's for the job. I initally voted Terry but I'm now turning towards Gerrard, on the basis I think he deserves it more.

Gerrard for captain!!!
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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2006, 03:10:52 PM »


Fair comment but how influential is Rooney compared to Beckham in footballing terms?

At the moment way below, at least Beckham has world cup goals to his name - how many has Rooney scored in both qualifying and finals games?

Answer: 0

I want what you've been smoking! Beckham more influential than Rooney? Are you winding me up?  Cheesy
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2006, 03:17:09 PM »

When was the last time Rooney did anything influential (FOR GOOD REASONS) for the English football team?

He is a striker and yet his goal tally is zero for the last 2 and a bit years apart from meaningless friendlies.

Beckhams goals (ok, one a slight deflection vs Paraguay) meant that England progessed as far as they did.

However Rooney made sure thats as far as they would go.........

Yes he has talent and in years to come maybe Englands "talisman" but at the moment he is nowhere near!!
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2006, 03:20:43 PM »

Beckham had a shocking world cup and I thought we looked infinately beter when Lennon was on the pitch.

Rooney is our most influential player by far. He caused all of the problems vs Ecuador but as usual Beckham scores a free kick and takes all the headlines after doing nothing all game. Same old story really. His PR team do their jobs well.
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2006, 03:30:00 PM »

Beckham had a shocking world cup and I thought we looked infinately beter when Lennon was on the pitch.

Rooney is our most influential player by far. He caused all of the problems vs Ecuador but as usual Beckham scores a free kick and takes all the headlines after doing nothing all game. Same old story really. His PR team do their jobs well.

Looks like i'm not the only one smoking something Smiley

Rooney caused all the problems against Ecuador?? England managed only 8 shots in the entire game of which only 4 shots were on target. The Ecuadorians had more of the possession than England. Rooney had only 2 of the 8 shots and he was supposed to be the lone striker and yet he has just two attempts the entire game?

The majority of the time he looked lost playing up front on his own and only seemed more comfortable when he dropped deep to pick up the ball - which then left no-one up front.

(granted this was hardly Rooney's fault but more the managers inept tactics)
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