BBC Sports Personality

[stereoman]

Don't think I've read a formal BBC statement suggesting that David Walliams is out of the running but y'never know. I don't think he'll be eligible and if he is, the Beeb will nobble him by not putting him on the shortlist of six.

Wouldn't be too keen on Joe Calzaghe winning SPOTY. His next fight's on October 14th against Sakio Bika (WHO!?).

Five of the final six will most probably be:

* Jenson Button
* Steven Gerrard
* Zara Philiips
* Andy Murray
* Monty Panesar

Money gone on Darren Clarke for some reason and that's a very weird reason. A good Ryder Cup performance will supercede the tragedy though.

[Nem]

Don't think I've read a formal BBC statement suggesting that David Walliams is out of the running but y'never know. I don't think he'll be eligible and if he is, the Beeb will nobble him by not putting him on the shortlist of six.

Wouldn't be too keen on Joe Calzaghe winning SPOTY. His next fight's on October 14th against Sakio Bika (WHO!?).

Five of the final six will most probably be:

* Jenson Button
* Steven Gerrard
* Zara Philiips
* Andy Murray
* Monty Panesar

Money gone on Darren Clarke for some reason and that's a very weird reason. A good Ryder Cup performance will supercede the tragedy though.

Yes, but at least he has won something!


* Jenson Button : won a grand prix at the 100th time of asking!

* Steven Gerrard : John Terry more likely

* Zara Philiips: Please

* Andy Murray: Again another loser

* Monty Panesar: The funniest one out of them all.

[Jon MW]

... Yes, but at least he has won something!

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* Zara Philiips: Please

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At least she's won something.

She's a world class horsewoman, why shouldn't she win it?

[Nem]

... Yes, but at least he has won something!

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* Zara Philiips: Please

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At least she's won something.

She's a world class horsewoman, why shouldn't she win it?

Horsewoman?

It would be a disgrace if she won.

We really are scraping the barrel when we mention Andy Murray, Monty Panesar and HM Horsewoman as SPOTY

[Jon MW]

What part do you object to: horseriding as a sport or that she's Royal?

[Nem]

What part do you object to: horseriding as a sport or that she's Royal?

Both.

[Jon MW]

Inverted snobbery, it's a shocking thing.

But still, I haven't had a chance to use one of the new emoticons yet.

this'll do  I'll defend the princess against the dark forces trying to deny her the SPOTY award. 

[Nem]

Inverted snobbery, it's a shocking thing.

But still, I haven't had a chance to use one of the new emoticons yet.

this'll do  I'll defend the princess against the dark forces trying to deny her the SPOTY award. 

The fact that is a sport that only a select few can play (people with money) and then to top it off, she is a Royal! 

Now if she was a World Class Tennis player, Footballer, Boxer or another sport accessible to most working class people - her status wouldn't mean so much.

Next they are going to have Prince Charles up for the award because he is a "World Class" Polo player

[scotty2hatty]

nemesis, why would we be scraping the barrel if murray won?

He has had an amazing rise up the world rankings and is now at number 16 at the age of 19.

Murray has had an immense year, beating a number of the best players in the world and competing well in a lot of tournaments.

I'd be interested in ur reasons as to why he isn't a worthy winner?

[Jon MW]

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The fact that is a sport that only a select few can play (people with money) and then to top it off, she is a Royal! 

Now if she was a World Class Tennis player, Footballer, Boxer or another sport accessible to most working class people - her status wouldn't mean so much.

Next they are going to have Prince Charles up for the award because he is a "World Class" Polo player

Do you really think that tennis isn't a game you can get an enormous advantage from by being rich - and presumably you'd also disqualify motor sport?

Isn't the award meant to reward excellence, not excellence (as long as you're from the right background)? I also don't think it should represent big improvement, so I'd agree with you on Andy Murray.

And Prince Charles has never been a world class polo player - just because somebody has a privileged background doesn't necessarily mean that they will have the ambition or ability to excel at their chosen sport.

[scotty2hatty]

big improvement? yes, but he's proved he can compete with the best in the world and has had a great year. In my opinion, he should win.

[ScotlandStu]

       What about Richie Ramsay?

[Nem]

nemesis, why would we be scraping the barrel if murray won?

He has had an amazing rise up the world rankings and is now at number 16 at the age of 19.

Murray has had an immense year, beating a number of the best players in the world and competing well in a lot of tournaments.

I'd be interested in ur reasons as to why he isn't a worthy winner?

Andy Murray has done great. I enjoy watching him play and he is very talented. But, he is not the best in his field. He isn't in the top 5/10/15/20... he is 60 in the world. Yes, he will be higher than 60th in the future and he has plenty of time to win SPOTY

If Calzaghe wins his defence in October, he will win this year.

[leighton_87]

He's no 16 not 60

[bobby1]

Im on Murray for a good few quid but the bet im really excited about is Darren Clarke at 66/1, If Europe win the Ryder cup and Clarke scores a few points or holes the winning putt he has a huge chance.