Open message to Tikay/Ironside.

[Heid]

Also (see you have me gabbing on now), remember that the word in question has lots of different meanings depending on where you are in the UK, and is an innocuous insult in some places right up to a terrible word that you shouldn't ever say.

Heid
PS Try me on slang, I spent 3 months trying to teach the yanks the sublety of British slang - ever tried to explain "follow through" to someone from Midwest USA?

[snoopy1239]

Just out of curiosity, does any1 find the ability to modify your own posts slightly unsettling?

[Ironside]

the fact it says under the post that you modified it i feel its ok

it allows you to alter typing errors etc etc without the abilty to change the whole meaning of a post to make others looks fools who have replied to you as readers can see you have edited the post AFTER the reply

[Karabiner]

the fact it says under the post that you modified it i feel its ok

it allows you to alter typing errors etc etc without the abilty to change the whole meaning of a post to make others looks fools who have replied to you as readers can see you have edited the post AFTER the reply

Just out of curiosity Ironside, how come you did not ask Redsimon to modify his own post ?

[thediceman]

What really worries me is the fact that people are getting the impression that this forum is becoming a "CLIQUE" and i have been told that by quite a few people both in online and off net discussions.

This is one of the things I have been felt has developed over the last couple of months. I have no issues with debating/argueing/disagreeing with anybody but when it becomes a case of the same old faces supporting eachother with name calling or attempting to collectively shout someone down it just reinforces the impression of a clique. As a result you get people critising you for certain statements yet justify there own with support of others when you hightlight that they infact acted in such a manner previously. The clique often turn threads into nothing but gloryfied chat rooms and this (imo) intimidates some people and stops from posting. This maybe a reason for why we have so many silent members. I just decided I would go the other way and come out swinging. This is at the end of the day an open forum and not a closed "clique" community, or is it???

I must say that I thought Ironside was very diplomatic earlier and handled the situation rather well, and this from the person who was very critical of him when he deleted Syrflop's thread when I felt only some off it needed to be censored. Guess it all part of the learning curve and your never going to get 100% of the people happy whatever you do.

[Colchester Kev]

But what it doesnt tell you is what part of the message has been modified, in the point of the offending post on the "Kids" thread, it makes it seem as though people were upset over being called brats, which is clearly not the case.

As others have said, being a moderator is a thankless task and whatever you do is bound to upset someone.... As in anything in life, be it poker rules or football referees, or anything else, all you can look for is consitency and common sense ... and if we talk about it and get an understanding about what is and isnt acceptable then we will get there.

[Ironside]

the fact it says under the post that you modified it i feel its ok

it allows you to alter typing errors etc etc without the abilty to change the whole meaning of a post to make others looks fools who have replied to you as readers can see you have edited the post AFTER the reply

good thinking that man i could of done that and that may of been a better option

while i was thinking about the post the thread was disintergrating and posts were coming in at a rapid rate including PM's i was also in a stt with 4 players left (remember i do this for love not money)

Just out of curiosity Ironside, how come you did not ask Redsimon to modify his own post ?

[snoopy1239]

Such a tricky subject when something that is offensive to one, is inoffensive to another. Yet we're depending on one man to act on behalf of the masses. Poor Ironside. I agree with the previous post who said you dealt with it pretty darn well.

[Ironside]

But what it doesnt tell you is what part of the message has been modified, in the point of the offending post on the "Kids" thread, it makes it seem as though people were upset over being called brats, which is clearly not the case.

As others have said, being a moderator is a thankless task and whatever you do is bound to upset someone.... As in anything in life, be it poker rules or football referees, or anything else, all you can look for is consitency and common sense ... and if we talk about it and get an understanding about what is and isnt acceptable then we will get there.

in the thread i modified of simons i clearly pointed out where i modified it when i modified it this was becasue i could see that by modifing it i would alter the tone of the posts below it

[Colchester Kev]

so are you saying that you modified it 

[Ironside]

so are you saying that you modified it 

ask me one on sport i have a chance with that

[Colchester Kev]

ok ... how come all you Jocks havent baited me on Englands performance against denmark ?

[Ironside]

was there any need

apart from that most of are too busy



laughing

[Colchester Kev]

And heres me thinking that all the Jocks just accept that however bad england played, they and our reserves (Republic of Ireland) and our "C" team(northern Ireland) were still better than your mob of sorry skirt wearers

[jammer]

I've managed a lot of web forums and email-list. A few things have helped over the years:

• I've learnt from bitter experience that changing people's words is absolutely not the way to go.
• Instead replace their post with the words POST_DELETED by mod, and leave it as a message, pm'ing the user if its just a mistake on their behalf.
  
  
• nor is deleting the thread often helpful. If things go down hill, lock the thread. Its precense indicates to people what will and will not be tolerated and there is no confusion.
  

Simple things like that really help, showing the mod's authority without causing any animosity.

jammer out.