Scottish Dave's Bankroll Experiment

[Scottish Dave]

Playing session 11 just now

STT 1 - I get KK in hand 2 and double up to 2000, then get AK next hand and take another 300, then get KK again very next hand for another 300, thats 2600 and still in level 1 lol

STT2 - I find AQ on button, and get 3 limpers, i raise to 150, and get 1 caller, it comes Q K 7, matey pushes all in for 850? (Into a 340 pot???), i figure he is at it, and call, he has 77, why the hell push all in like that? - anyway he got my chips, so he was correct i suppose

STT3 - havent done nowt

STT4 - up to 1900 when my 99 hit flop of 9 A 10, matey had AK

[Sark79]

Cheers graham. 

I am going to stick with ring games,  don't you think they offer a better way to build you BR? 

If you are good!  I'm not very good at playing cash, I can't seem to adjust for it and probably play too many hands. 

At my level and for me, I think stt's are the way to go.  If I win I get get around $40 for winning (I've moved to the 18 man sng's)  which for 45-60 mins work is great.  I can't get this return in ring games, I'm just not good at them.  Actually I'm about to move up to the $15+1 ones too which pays over $100 to the winner.

I'd like to say mtt's are the way to go but the value I get out of them isn't that great.  Last nights efforts for 7th place took me over 5 hours and I only made about $100 profit - not the best but it was bloody good fun.  I love playing mtt's,  especially when the blinds get big and you have 100k + in chips to be playing with, it's just great fun but as far as making money and building up the bankroll goes, it has to be the sng's for me

It's great that everyone is different though. If we were all the same, I'd probably earn less from them

n1 mate, and well done on the 3rd place mtt earlier tonight.  great result.    I am the opposite, I tend to be more suited to low limit cash games on betfair.  I play £0.25/0.50  2 tables.  These suit me much more, I am rubbish at MTT and not much better at STT.  I keep trying STT, but don't have the game for it.  I want to get a USB connection into tanks brain, then I can start winning them 

[Bongo]

Sark, just play what you enjoy mate. I mainly play cash too.

Dave - he probably bets like that because people will call at that level, not because they think he's at it but because they have a pair and they think it must be the best hand whatever he has.

[mikkyT]

However a Hun is actually a member of a nomadic pastoralist people who invaded Europe in the 4th cent.

Attila?

Yea...

Its used by catholics to describe prodestants and historically refers to the germanic decent of much of Britain, via the Huns. Wikipedia can be quite useful sometimes! Although these days meanings are twisted somewhat and usually its an insult.

European Huns

Huns made an appearance in Europe in the Fourth Century AD, appearing first north of the Black Sea area possibly from Central Asia, forcing a large number of Goths to seek refuge in the Roman Empire; then later the Huns appear west of the Carpathians in Pannonia, probably sometime between 400 and 410, which was probably the trigger for the massive migration of Germanic tribes westward across the Rhine in December 406.

The establishment of the 5th century Hun Empire marks one of the first well-documented appearances of the culture of horseback migration in history. Under the leadership of Attila the Hun, these tribal people achieved military and diplomatic superiority over their rivals (most of them highly cultured) through weapons like the Hun bow and a system of pay-offs, financed by the plundering of wealthy Roman cities to the south, to retain the loyalties of a diverse number of tribes.

Attila's Huns incorporated groups of unrelated tributary peoples. In the European case Alans, Gepids, Scirii, Rugians, Sarmatians, Slavs and Gothic tribes all united under the Hun family military elite. Some of Attila's Huns eventually settled in Pannonia after his death, but the Hun Empire would not survive Attila's passing. After his sons were defeated by Ardaric's coalition at the unidentified river Nedao in 454, the Hunnish empire ceased to exist.

The memory of the Hunnish invasion was transmitted orally among the Germanic peoples and is an important component in the Old Norse Völsunga saga and Hervarar saga, and the Old German Nibelungenlied, all portraying events in the Migrations period, almost one millennium before their recordings. In the Hervarar saga, the Goths make first contact with the bow-wielding Huns and meet them in an epic battle on the plains of the Danube. In the Völsunga saga and the Nibelungenlied, King Attila (Atli in Norse and Etzel in German) defeats the Frankish king Sigebert I (Sigurðr or Siegfried) and the Burgundian King Guntram I (Gunnar or Gunther), but is subsequently assassinated by Queen Fredegund (Gudrun or Kriemhild), the sister of the latter and wife of the former.

BTW this "hun" bears no relation to the use of the world to descibe Germans during WW1, I think the only relation was to do with a similarity between the helmets of the two armies. Again, all depends on context.

Mikky why do you always need to get all high and political with us all the time!

the term hun, is used by me to describe the Teddy bears, end of. Everyone on here knows me and knows that i mean no harm by it, its posts like this one that makes people think i have other agenda's when i say the term 'Hun' just leave it out and things will be fine.

Ironside you, and everyone else on here knows me and knows what i mean when i use the term 'Hun', so please stop jumping all over posts and calm down about it.

this is supposed to be a thread about my bankroll, and its going elsewhere now - sometimes i wonder why i even bother posting any'fuckin'more.

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Dave stop bein a gimp that post was meant to be sticking up for you and show that the term is neither offensive nor insluting!

[Newmanseye]

I think yiu are all gimps personally!!

[Scottish Dave]

However a Hun is actually a member of a nomadic pastoralist people who invaded Europe in the 4th cent.

Attila?

Yea...

Its used by catholics to describe prodestants and historically refers to the germanic decent of much of Britain, via the Huns. Wikipedia can be quite useful sometimes! Although these days meanings are twisted somewhat and usually its an insult.

European Huns

Huns made an appearance in Europe in the Fourth Century AD, appearing first north of the Black Sea area possibly from Central Asia, forcing a large number of Goths to seek refuge in the Roman Empire; then later the Huns appear west of the Carpathians in Pannonia, probably sometime between 400 and 410, which was probably the trigger for the massive migration of Germanic tribes westward across the Rhine in December 406.

The establishment of the 5th century Hun Empire marks one of the first well-documented appearances of the culture of horseback migration in history. Under the leadership of Attila the Hun, these tribal people achieved military and diplomatic superiority over their rivals (most of them highly cultured) through weapons like the Hun bow and a system of pay-offs, financed by the plundering of wealthy Roman cities to the south, to retain the loyalties of a diverse number of tribes.

Attila's Huns incorporated groups of unrelated tributary peoples. In the European case Alans, Gepids, Scirii, Rugians, Sarmatians, Slavs and Gothic tribes all united under the Hun family military elite. Some of Attila's Huns eventually settled in Pannonia after his death, but the Hun Empire would not survive Attila's passing. After his sons were defeated by Ardaric's coalition at the unidentified river Nedao in 454, the Hunnish empire ceased to exist.

The memory of the Hunnish invasion was transmitted orally among the Germanic peoples and is an important component in the Old Norse Völsunga saga and Hervarar saga, and the Old German Nibelungenlied, all portraying events in the Migrations period, almost one millennium before their recordings. In the Hervarar saga, the Goths make first contact with the bow-wielding Huns and meet them in an epic battle on the plains of the Danube. In the Völsunga saga and the Nibelungenlied, King Attila (Atli in Norse and Etzel in German) defeats the Frankish king Sigebert I (Sigurðr or Siegfried) and the Burgundian King Guntram I (Gunnar or Gunther), but is subsequently assassinated by Queen Fredegund (Gudrun or Kriemhild), the sister of the latter and wife of the former.

BTW this "hun" bears no relation to the use of the world to descibe Germans during WW1, I think the only relation was to do with a similarity between the helmets of the two armies. Again, all depends on context.

Mikky why do you always need to get all high and political with us all the time!

the term hun, is used by me to describe the Teddy bears, end of. Everyone on here knows me and knows that i mean no harm by it, its posts like this one that makes people think i have other agenda's when i say the term 'Hun' just leave it out and things will be fine.

Ironside you, and everyone else on here knows me and knows what i mean when i use the term 'Hun', so please stop jumping all over posts and calm down about it.

this is supposed to be a thread about my bankroll, and its going elsewhere now - sometimes i wonder why i even bother posting any'fuckin'more.

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Dave stop bein a gimp that post was meant to be sticking up for you and show that the term is neither offensive nor insluting!

Bottom line is, i got Moderators PM'ingf me about it, and its cos it goes into politics, just like the post you posted, just leave it next time mate...cheers

[Sark79]

Playing session 11 just now

STT 1 - I get KK in hand 2 and double up to 2000, then get AK next hand and take another 300, then get KK again very next hand for another 300, thats 2600 and still in level 1 lol

STT2 - I find AQ on button, and get 3 limpers, i raise to 150, and get 1 caller, it comes Q K 7, matey pushes all in for 850? (Into a 340 pot???), i figure he is at it, and call, he has 77, why the hell push all in like that? - anyway he got my chips, so he was correct i suppose

STT3 - havent done nowt

STT4 - up to 1900 when my 99 hit flop of 9 A 10, matey had AK


Is this £3, £5 or £10

[Scottish Dave]

Anyway as for the STT's

i came:
1st - £25
3rd - £10
4th
5th

£22 in - £35 out = £13 Profit

(+£28) (-£7) (-£12) (-£12) (+£8) (+£18) (+£18) (-£22) (+£28) (+£3) (+£13) = +£63 for the trip

[Scottish Dave]

Playing session 11 just now

STT 1 - I get KK in hand 2 and double up to 2000, then get AK next hand and take another 300, then get KK again very next hand for another 300, thats 2600 and still in level 1 lol

STT2 - I find AQ on button, and get 3 limpers, i raise to 150, and get 1 caller, it comes Q K 7, matey pushes all in for 850? (Into a 340 pot???), i figure he is at it, and call, he has 77, why the hell push all in like that? - anyway he got my chips, so he was correct i suppose

STT3 - havent done nowt

STT4 - up to 1900 when my 99 hit flop of 9 A 10, matey had AK


Is this £3, £5 or £10

Always the same level mate = 4 x £5 + 0.50 = £22 at a time

[mikkyT]

U got PMed before I posted. And said as such, so I posted that as you backup. Nvermind. Get back to those STTs.

[Graham C]

Good going so far Dave.  It is a slow slog building up but you seem to be finishing ITM on a nice regular basis and apart from the 3 unprofitable sessions at the beginning, are in most of the time now, that's good going by anyones standards.

I have a tracking spreadsheet from twoplustwo if you are interested, you enter your results and it tells you your profit, ITM % etc ec - nothing special but it's free   PM me you email if you (or anyone else) wants it.  Failing that, there are loads of them available on the 2+2 website, I find they come in useful for monitoring things.

[ifm]

Is there a spreadsheet specifically for stt's?
If so could you send me the link/the SS, cheers.

[Graham C]

There is this one, but it's a bit too much for my needs and I don't want to log all that info but it's pretty good.  In fact, on second looks, I may use it   It seems to use a lot of system resources though - all those macros.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4957046&an=0&page=0#Post4957046

I can't find the one I use at the moment on there but it's basically one of those sheets from the one I've posted and no fancy buttons.  I just use a different spreadsheet for different level buy ins.  I'll post a link to it later on when I get home if you want it but it's just a simple version of the one above.

[ifm]

Excellent mate, thanks for that.
It is a bit complicated but hey rather overkill than not enough eh?

[Teacake]

I use the 2+2 spreadsheet & think its excellent!