Launch of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour (APAT)

[Jon MW]

Where do these players register for the Birmingham event? with APAT or Broadway?, because as it stands Casino's cannot discriminate between entries and Competitions must be open to all, unless the cardroom has been booked for a private function, and whoever books it should also look after monies?

Online registration on www.apat.com

first 120 entries on 1 sept who have paid get in, therefore APAT collects the monies

As with any other event, we won't discriminate as to eligible entries until it is full

So will registration open at midnight of the 31st?

[TightEnd]

Is this series going to act by the same rules as the snooker and billiards association?   For example, if Flushy was offered a job as the Queen's official pilot, could he then play in these events as he would no longer be a pro player?

Being the Queen's pilot is an arduous job, leaving not much time for online play

It also pays well

As such I would say Flushy would then be eligible

[TightEnd]

So will registration open at midnight of the 31st?

that is my understanding, yes

[TightEnd]

Is that wrong? Am i a poker snob? Probably, but unless I missed something am I right in thinking that for a lot of people on this forum this apat is not aimed at them?

The association is aimed at all amateurs. As such apat is aimed fair and square at many blondeites.

As to the Live comps, they are designed to deliver "festival" levels of return for a lower buy in, and as such suit those on a more limited bankroll. Again, that seems to me to suit many blondeites

[TightEnd]

Des, what will you do if someone is a professional and does win one, someone points this out to you and he/she simply denies it?

We would not disqualify a competitor on the hearsay of a third party

By the same token we do not intend asking for bank statements and tax returns from people!

[Claw75]

I have only got to page 3 so far. It looks really interesting. 

Typlical bloke!

[RED-DOG]

Given the criteria, I really don't know if I qualify to play or not. I would hate to abstain and then see others in my situation playing. but would also hate it if I did play and someone said "Oi!! He's not eligible"

I'm going to let you lot decide.

[Claw75]

Is that wrong? Am i a poker snob? Probably, but unless I missed something am I right in thinking that for a lot of people on this forum this apat is not aimed at them?

The association is aimed at all amateurs. As such apat is aimed fair and square at many blondeites.

As to the Live comps, they are designed to deliver "festival" levels of return for a lower buy in, and as such suit those on a more limited bankroll. Again, that seems to me to suit many blondeites

But, as Acidmouse pointed out, £75 is still a fair whack for many a recreational player.   If, as someone else suggested, most festivals start at £100 rebuy, are there really that many more people that can comfortably afford a £75 freeze than can't stretch to a £100 rebuy?  I'm not trying to stir anything up here, it just seems that the target membership might be fairly limited.

[Jon MW]

Is that wrong? Am i a poker snob? Probably, but unless I missed something am I right in thinking that for a lot of people on this forum this apat is not aimed at them?

The association is aimed at all amateurs. As such apat is aimed fair and square at many blondeites.

As to the Live comps, they are designed to deliver "festival" levels of return for a lower buy in, and as such suit those on a more limited bankroll. Again, that seems to me to suit many blondeites

But, as Acidmouse pointed out, £75 is still a fair whack for many a recreational player.   If, as someone else suggested, most festivals start at £100 rebuy, are there really that many more people that can comfortably afford a £75 freeze than can't stretch to a £100 rebuy?  I'm not trying to stir anything up here, it just seems that the target membership might be fairly limited.

This is the main event though.

Before I saw this I was looking at playing in a big tournament and the cheapest main event I could find for 2005 was £300. This would be a stretch for me, but next year I might manage it.

But I'm not going to bother spending £300-£400 on a £100 rebuy side event when I might just be outspent by other people anyway.

[tikay]

OK, lets start with the most important one - free buffets!

We are working out the details as we go along.

At Event One, on Day One, yes, free buffet.

At Event One, Day Two, all those who make it through to Day Two of the comp will be invited to Sunday Lunch as guests of the APAT.

But why no norkage questions?

[Simon Galloway2]

Wishing all the best with this new venture for all those concerned.

I have to say that this forum is one of the better ones for not having ridiculously negative posts.  Other forums have trolls that seem intent on wasting their lives wishing ill on other people that are trying to make things happen.  Here at least, the questions are fair (if not self-answering on the apat website for some..) and I am sure will be taken in the right spirit.

As with all things, a new venture has to decide on a target market.  This will mean that for many the venue/buy-in/structure/something else won't appeal.  If the marketing is done right - it will appeal to 120 players and the event will be a success.  If it isn't, then they will have to re-think their strategy.  For me personally £75 is too small to take up 2 days and a hotel bill, (not if I am nailed on to win it of course) but that doesn't give me the right to complain that a new venture hasn't been set up with exactly my wishes in mind.

The structure looks ok, there is a bit of a jump as pointed out but there are so many chips in play that average stacks should be something like 60k when they do - so it will speed up a bit but hardly require an all-in frenzy.  Last time I played in one of these deep stack+low buy in tournys, 2 people that were moaning about the poor structure managed to get it all in ON THE VERY FIRST ORBIT with ace-rag -v- a small pair!  No structure in the world will give that sort of player a good tournament.

I agree that the "pro" definition is a little woolly for a court of law.  But this doesn't need to be a court of law. A common sense interpretation and I don't see a problem - if you really think you are on the margin then ask for clarification before you enter.  It is certainly less ambiguous IMHO than "beginners night" with the LNP stars out in force...

So GL to all those behind it and to those that choose to play.  I may well roll up at one or two of them - I'm bloody sure that I don't meet the criteria of "pro" no matter what definition you choose to apply!

[Sark79]

I have only got to page 3 so far. It looks really interesting. 

Typlical bloke!

    I am innocent

[Claw75]

But why no norkage questions?

will there be any hot blokes there Tikay?

[Sark79]

But why no norkage questions?

will there be any hot blokes there Tikay?

I probably won't be playing any of these events Claire   

[Sark79]

This may have already been answered, sorry if it is.  I am only on P7. 

Will the option be there to take the money instead of a WSOP/WPT seat?   Basically, can you take $10,000 instead of the seat?