WPT National London Final table

[Doobs]

Yikes, the world has moved on in the intervening eight years.

You didn't see the prices I laid on last year's WSOP on Betfair.  Would have made blue square look like the second coming.

[tikay]

Yikes, the world has moved on in the intervening eight years.

You didn't see the prices I laid on last year's WSOP on Betfair.  Would have made blue square look like the second coming.

I never knew Betty had a market on the WSOP. Must be a layers paradise.

[The Firm Poker]

Jamie,

Much as I admire Blue Square as a firm and applaud your iniative for pricing up so many poker events, don't you think 40/1 the fileld in an event which attracted 667 players last year is a teensy weensy bit tight.

I know your boss is a tad risk adverse, but having the favourite at 100/1 would be a little bit fairer wouldn't you agree?

See you Saturday,

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

[Doobs]

Yikes, the world has moved on in the intervening eight years.

You didn't see the prices I laid on last year's WSOP on Betfair.  Would have made blue square look like the second coming.

I never knew Betty had a market on the WSOP. Must be a layers paradise.

Max price 1000/1 8000 runners.  Was fun.  Think somebody laid Ivey at about 40s.  I had laid everybody named at one stage, biggest price was about 650/1.  Venessa Selbst was last one standing from about 80 staters and she was 75th.  It wasn't even NRNB so guess I laid a few that didn't even play.

[The Firm Poker]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

[tikay]

Yikes, the world has moved on in the intervening eight years.

You didn't see the prices I laid on last year's WSOP on Betfair.  Would have made blue square look like the second coming.

I never knew Betty had a market on the WSOP. Must be a layers paradise.

Max price 1000/1 8000 runners.  Was fun.  Think somebody laid Ivey at about 40s.  I had laid everybody named at one stage, biggest price was about 650/1.  Venessa Selbst was last one standing from about 80 staters and she was 75th.  It wasn't even NRNB so guess I laid a few that didn't even play.

Jeez, you'd lay as much as you could afford, & a bit more, on that. Guess you only have to get it badly wroing once for it to hurt, but what value there must be.

[tikay]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

Good morning.

I don't think we have a problem with the spam as such, but given this is betting stuff, where trust & integrity is vital, can you introduce yourself, tell us who you are? I'm assuming it is Mark, but transparency is best in these matters.

Thanks.

[Doobs]

Yikes, the world has moved on in the intervening eight years.

You didn't see the prices I laid on last year's WSOP on Betfair.  Would have made blue square look like the second coming.

I never knew Betty had a market on the WSOP. Must be a layers paradise.

Max price 1000/1 8000 runners.  Was fun.  Think somebody laid Ivey at about 40s.  I had laid everybody named at one stage, biggest price was about 650/1.  Venessa Selbst was last one standing from about 80 staters and she was 75th.  It wasn't even NRNB so guess I laid a few that didn't even play.

Jeez, you'd lay as much as you could affoird, & a bit more, on that. Guess you only have to get it badly wroing once for it to hurt, but what value there must be.

I originally thought I had to tie up the cash til November, so only laid to lose about £2k on each.  Some of the market moves were funny.  Say Ivey was 40/1.  I put up 200s.  It was gone in a couple of hours and he was back to 40 and somebody took that too.  I think I laid Chris Ferguson for 100/1.  I figured he was about 100/1 to show up.  It was one of the first prices to be taken.

This was 2012.

[The Firm Poker]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

Good morning.

I don't think we have a problem with the spam as such, but given this is betting stuff, where trust & integrity is vital, can you introduce yourself, tell us who you are? I'm assuming it is Mark, but transparency is best in these matters.

Thanks.

Hi Tikay, Its Aaron I am one of the owners. We have met but I guess you meet so many people you may not recall.

[tikay]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

Good morning.

I don't think we have a problem with the spam as such, but given this is betting stuff, where trust & integrity is vital, can you introduce yourself, tell us who you are? I'm assuming it is Mark, but transparency is best in these matters.

Thanks.

Hi Tikay, Its Aaron I am one of the owners. We have met but I guess you meet so many people you may not recall.

Hi Aaron,

Yes, I do recall meeting & chatting, (Coventry G perhaps?) but you get my point - there was no mention in your first two Posts of who you were, so I could not have possibly guesed it was you. If you want people to bet with you, they do need to know who they are betting with, that was my only point. I'm neither for or against the idea.

If I were in your shoes, & I wanted to stick stuff up here with a few to generating business, I would do a little intro. We have been caught before, once or twice.....

I know Mark quite well, & most of your "Pro Team", too.

[tikay]

Yikes, the world has moved on in the intervening eight years.

You didn't see the prices I laid on last year's WSOP on Betfair.  Would have made blue square look like the second coming.

I never knew Betty had a market on the WSOP. Must be a layers paradise.

Max price 1000/1 8000 runners.  Was fun.  Think somebody laid Ivey at about 40s.  I had laid everybody named at one stage, biggest price was about 650/1.  Venessa Selbst was last one standing from about 80 staters and she was 75th.  It wasn't even NRNB so guess I laid a few that didn't even play.

Jeez, you'd lay as much as you could affoird, & a bit more, on that. Guess you only have to get it badly wroing once for it to hurt, but what value there must be.

I originally thought I had to tie up the cash til November, so only laid to lose about £2k on each.  Some of the market moves were funny.  Say Ivey was 40/1.  I put up 200s.  It was gone in a couple of hours and he was back to 40 and somebody took that too.  I think I laid Chris Ferguson for 100/1.  I figured he was about 100/1 to show up.  It was one of the first prices to be taken.

This was 2012.

Incredible, & if it were not you, I'm not sure I would believe that.

Talk about "one born every minute".....

[The Camel]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

Looks a really interesting concept. At first glance I like it very much.

What juice are you charging?

[The Firm Poker]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

Looks a really interesting concept. At first glance I like it very much.

What juice are you charging?

Thanks Keith, the juice is zero - so whoever you bet on you get par.

[The Camel]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

Looks a really interesting concept. At first glance I like it very much.

What juice are you charging?

Thanks Keith, the juice is zero - so whoever you bet on you get par.

What about deals?

Tournament gets 4 handed, and the players chop it.

Do you count deal prize or official prize for payouts? (often a huge difference between the two)

[The Firm Poker]

Keith

Very interesting thread as we just created a new poker tournament betting solution called PokerBet (you can see on our site thefirmpoker.com sry for the plug) which is designed to deal with the sportsbook difficulty in pricing up these events. Our product uses Titan Sports Book - if you bet on a player you win if the player reaches the final 9 and you get paid whatever they get paid as a multiplier of the buyin.

This way the bookie doesn't need to price up and bettor is getting the same odds as the player - assuming we like the returns poker provides from final tables this works all round in my opinion.

I would be really interested in your feedback as an expert in betting markets.

Looks a really interesting concept. At first glance I like it very much.

What juice are you charging?

Thanks Keith, the juice is zero - so whoever you bet on you get par.

What about deals?

Tournament gets 4 handed, and the players chop it.

Do you count deal prize or official prize? (often a huge difference between the two)

Its the deal prize with the point being you win what the player does so if it chops you get chop amount multiplier. As we will be there we will know the deal amount and all players involved agree to disclose the deal amount - have a look at the FAQ because we figured there would be lots of Q's and we tried to anticipate all of them - but there will always be something we didnt think of that could bit us in the ar**