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« on: August 19, 2006, 12:06:18 AM » |
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Dear All there are moments when I truly hate the game. Tonight would be one. Sitting in my lounge playing satellites for EPT on stars I find myself in nice shape to reach this weekends final. Two tables to go 38,000 chips 11 seats and 18 left. Moved to the table and find Ripple 11 sitting on my right with 14,000. The average for the last 11 will be 30,000. Ripple goes all in against 12,000 stack. Gets a call. Ripper has a pair of 8's. Matey boy AJ. Hits his overcard. Ripmeister down to 2,400ish. He bobs and weaves and fights his way back to mid 20,000 chips after I manage to double him thru. Players are being knocked out. We are down to 12. I am in the small blind. The big blind is sitting out. There are 6 players round the table. It fold round to Ripple....He pushes all in. I have pocket K's I know Ripple is a Blondie.....What should I do?  ? |
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Claw75
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2006, 12:08:35 AM » |
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call of course! I'm sure Nick would have done the same to you  Did you win your seat? |
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"Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon....no matter how good you are the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway"
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Snatiramas
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2006, 12:11:37 AM » |
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The bit I missed out was I already had 2 wins this week for this comp....I was just trying to pick up some w$
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2006, 12:12:19 AM » |
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Of course you should call. Anything else would be colusion and grossly unfair to the other players.
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Wardonkey
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2006, 12:17:29 AM » |
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A case can be made for passing, but it has nothing to do with who your opponent is....
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Snatiramas
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2006, 12:21:06 AM » |
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But guys we all know collusion happens in a far more organised way all the time. Would it be such a terrible crime
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Claw75
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2006, 12:24:34 AM » |
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People go out mugging old ladies every day too, doesn't mean I want to do it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2006, 12:30:17 AM » |
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But guys we all know collusion happens in a far more organised way all the time. Would it be such a terrible crime
Does the fact that it happens justify it in some way? |
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Snatiramas
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2006, 12:33:03 AM » |
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But Ripple was and would be totally unaware of what I had. He colluded in no way whatsoever. My point stands. Is this collusion? |
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2006, 12:36:34 AM » |
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I dont care who was all in, even it was a family memeber (hypothetical as they dont play poker) but id be calling all day long
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Claw75
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2006, 12:38:13 AM » |
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I would actually feel quite patronised if someone played differently against me just because of who I am.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2006, 12:38:27 AM » |
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But Ripple was and would be totally unaware of what I had. He colluded in no way whatsoever. My point stands. Is this collusion? That is an interesting slant, it wouldn't be collusion................just blatant cheating instead  |
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2006, 12:53:52 AM » |
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tikay knows everyone in poker, if he took this approach he'd never play a hand!  Have to call The only justification in not calling is if it was strip poker and the were 10 other players were supermodels. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2006, 01:13:44 AM » |
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I would actually feel quite patronised if someone played differently against me just because of who I am.
exactly, it would feel like charity, guilt should not play any part while playing. Feel guilty afterwards if you like. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2006, 05:08:53 AM » |
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Do you remember what the chip stacks of both ripple, yourself, the sitting out big blind player, and the other short stacks in the tournament were when this hand occured? If, in the event of you calling with KK and losing, you would still have more chips than the shortest stack in the tournament, then I don't really see a case for passing. If I ever felt guilty in a situation like this it would be becasue I briefly considered folding. My wee brother and I were about to play in a tournament at the Luxor. He is relatively new to poker. Prior to the tournament I explained that it was important he played just as hard and fast against me as he would anyone else. Cheeky bugger made a fishy call and knocked me out.  |
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