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« on: August 23, 2006, 09:01:23 PM »

Had an "animated" discussion with a good "buddy" of mine over here in the ole US of A, playing a game at his place, anyway preflop he was a bit shortstacked, and as the way these things turn out we got the money in pre-flop, and both revealed AQ o/s.  And I ended up spiking 4 diamonds to make the nut flush to knock him out.

I dont disagree that it was a wee but fortunate, but disagreed that I had either "sucked out" or that he had suffered a "terrible bad beat", mainly because

1. I was never behind in the hand

2. He was never ahead in the hand.

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2006, 09:09:26 PM »

i've just stuck this in an odds calculator and you were 2.16% to win before the community cards were dealt.  I'd probably call that a bad beat.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2006, 02:03:42 AM »

I agree. Definately wasn't a bad beat.

Unless your hand was something along the lines of  and he held  . ie, he holds the ace of whatever suit your Queen is in, and his Queen is a seperate suit from your Ace.

In that case, he would be almost twice as likely to win the hand, and can take that to the bank.  Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2006, 02:14:20 AM »


i've just stuck this in an odds calculator and you were 2.16% to win before the community cards were dealt.  I'd probably call that a bad beat.


Pedantic time

Just to point out, that's only when 4 seperate suits are in play.  vs 
It's more likely that at least one suit appeared twice.


0.74% when you both have each others Queen suits counterfeited  vs 


1.09% when your Queen suit is counterfeited    vs 


1.82% when his Queen suit is counterfeited    vs 
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2006, 04:11:32 PM »


i've just stuck this in an odds calculator and you were 2.16% to win before the community cards were dealt.  I'd probably call that a bad beat.


Pedantic time

Just to point out, that's only when 4 seperate suits are in play.  vs 
It's more likely that at least one suit appeared twice.


0.74% when you both have each others Queen suits counterfeited  vs 


1.09% when your Queen suit is counterfeited    vs 


1.82% when his Queen suit is counterfeited    vs 

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 04:42:14 PM »

So the weighted average is around 1.56% for AQo vs AQo Roll Eyes

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 05:55:22 PM »

So the weighted average is around 1.56% for AQo vs AQo Roll Eyes



Looks a good bet then Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 08:01:53 PM »


 so if u are only expectd to lose a hand 1 or 2 times out of a hundred id say its a pretty bad beat when it happens.
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