online cheating

[basin]

does anyone know about an alleged programme that enables user to see other players hole cards & if it is areality are the sites able to detect its use or counteract it. i feel i cant play online until im assured this isnt happening

[RED-DOG]

Hi mate, I dont know about your hole cards, but I think some people have a 'what,s coming next' o meter

How else can you call an all in bet with AQ against a man holding QQ when the flop is JJ8

I do have a programme which allows me to see what other blondites are wearing

PS, I love those pyjamas

[snoopy1239]

does anyone know about an alleged programme that enables user to see other players hole cards & if it is areality are the sites able to detect its use or counteract it. i feel i cant play online until im assured this isnt happening

I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON WHY I ALWAYS LOSE!!! 

And stop stalking Blondites, RED. 

[Dewi_cool]

RED-DOG

I take it you had the QQ and the ace hit

[ifm]

err no.
there are programs called "bots" which can play the game for you but they work purely on mathematical odds and probabilities using the information provided.
sites only send information to a persons computer regarding THEIR hand ONLY so you cannot possibly find out about other folks hole cards, you would need to hack into the site software posing as every other player at the table and request the info, but then in order to that you would need to know their login details but then you can't be logged in twice so even that wouldn't work.
ok i confused myself again
Ian

[RED-DOG]

RED-DOG

I take it you had the QQ and the ace hit

AARRGGGHH Dewi knows my hole cards!!!!!!!

[dik9]

RED-DOG ...You sound bitter, did an Ace come then?

Basin.. I know of two programmes, one can see one other persons cards and the other where you can see the whole table. I don't know much about them but I know online sites have good collussion departments. If you have access to poker europa Nic wrote an article about it on the second page of last months.

[ifm]

ahh, you see the program itself cannot discover other players hole cards, it can share your hole cards with others linked into a network.
much the same as if you are on the phone to a mate on the same table (or MSN) but anti collusion teams are incredibly sofisticated in this area and you will not get away with it.

[RED-DOG]

Well The Nun has just signed in, and my 'what blondites are wearing' programme is detecting very little

[dik9]

Ian, there is a programme that all cards are shown to avoid collussion used by online site monitors. Therefore it makes sense that there is a programme out there, and if it is out there it can be accessed by anyone determined enough. Then sold to a consortium of players. These programmes have been around for 3 years.

[ifm]

there is indeed but you see they cannot log into a network undetected, online sites are not gonna let folks see other's hole cards.
also it cannot be done remotely, there is a member on here who is involved with anti-collusion (or knows everything about it) maybe he can put you mind at ease.

[redsimon]

If you think you are being cheated, report it to the site, or don't play there. You are more likely to be cheated in a B+M casino than online IMHO

[dik9]

I believe I know the member in question, but I don't know what his name is on here. I would not stop playing due to this anyway, as the stakes I play for are not relatively large, so IMO not worth the time or effort to bother.
Banks, casino's , security vans etc. are all suppossed to be safe, but if the money is big enough in any situation there is always someone who thinks they can get it easier than earning it or winning it without loss, and there is always a way. When sites find one way they combat it, but whilst they are doing this another plan is being hatched. The original poster asked whether there were programmes to see other peoples cards, and the answer is yes.

[ACE2M]

Sometimes you wonder, last night i made a big all in move against the chip leader to a raise when i was pretty sure he had nothing. He calls me with J8o giving him nothing against my top pair top kicker AQ. If i won it would cripple him. Turn 8 river 8.

Everyone at the table is amazed and asking how he can call. He says absolutely nothing.

[snoopy1239]

You know, it is possible that these players are just clueless fish.