Is it going to happen? No more American poker players online? Old debate I know.

[crip17]

The bill has just been passed.   Now over to president  Bush to sign.      Where's Jack Bauer when u really need him   HUH

[Sark79]

PM Flushy,  he knows Jack Bauer well. They learned to fly planes at the same flight school

[boldie]

The bill has just been passed.   Now over to president  Bush to sign.      Where's Jack Bauer when u really need him   HUH

yep....trouble ahead. I expect to see some websites moving their servers to the states now to allow US players to play...but it spells trouble for online poker.

[snoopy1239]

http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/4332

[snoopy1239]

On a personal basis, this a big concern for me as an online player.

I depend almost entirely on the American market, so to have this bill passed and only a Presidential signature away from being confirmed is a huge catastrophe.

I just hope that opposition is so huge and intense that the bill is, if not overturned, at least delayed.

[glenner]

moet een juiste baan nu worden

[boldie]

moet een juiste baan nu worden

translation for no dutch speakers. "has to be a proper job now"

[MrMoves]

Guys, please remember there are successful online poker rooms (Ladbrokes) that have never accepted US players.

This is not the end.  Online poker is here to stay.

Don't panic, Mr Mainwaring.

[Longy]

I agree with Mr Moves that our ability to play poker is not in any danger, there may well be downsizing in the industry and some sites may well go under as the market shrinks but there will still be sites out there to play on.

My main concern is the traffic of players, this legislation is going to stop new and bad american players depositing and they will no longer be there. We maybe left with the more motivated ones who will find loopholes, the problem with these players is if they are motivated to do this, they will be motivated to be good poker players. As a multi tabling relative small stakes online pro my main donators will no longer be there is such numbers, for example according to stats i recently saw Party has an 80% turnover of players in a 6 month period, now that is scary given well over half of them are american. We are taliking around 40% of partys traffic disappearing very quickly.

There are strong rumours that the legislation will be very wide stopping such sites as neteller and firepay being deposited into from american bank account. Or even blocking deposit by monitioring ip addresses. I know that stars already use this security feature as i was stopped from depositing when i recently went on holiday due to my ip address being in Egypt.

I also have to say the USA has always been a place that has bemused me politcally and morally. This is another fine example of the land of the free being anything but that.

[AndrewT]

'Why do they hate us? ... They hate our freedoms' - George W Bush

[TightEnd]

I just hope that opposition is so huge and intense that the bill is, if not overturned, at least delayed.

there isn't much coherent opposition and what little corporate opposition there is offshore and not US taxpayers, the vested interests in pushing the bill thourgh (financial institutions, the moral republican right wing, the land based casino interests, the money laundering authorities) are huge

[kvnstv]

As I understand it the American government now has 270 days to introduce measures to prevent movement from US based financial organisations to poker sites and e-wallets. Is this likely to cause a bit of a run of withdrawals on some sites? Is my 30 quid on party safe!!!! 

[MrMoves]

Your 30 quid is safe unless it's 30 quids worth of shares.  In which case it'll be worth about 10 quid at 9am tomorrow.

[kvnstv]

Cheers Paul, I was going to use that 30 quid to buy shoes for the nipper. phew!!!