Live game etiquette...what would you do?

[Simon Galloway2]

I have found myself in this situation a couple of times.  Someone says something well out of line and the first time I think "suppose they must be good mates to do that.." and then second time when it is clear they aren't, I would intervene.

You point out you don't find their behaviour acceptable (sounds like something out of SuperNanny...) and if you don't get the right response you ask the TD/cardroom manger to sort.

As an aside, I am firmly of the belief that one of the dealer's responsibilities is to maintain a positive environment as well as being "just an automaton" that deals out cards.  So, I would expect a dealer to begin to manage the situation, supported by TD as required - and no doubt by the rest of the table.

[MrMoves]

I think most, or even all, card rooms have rules on view somewhere.  I recall reading the Broadway rules on my first visit, when Dik9 ran the show.  I'm sure it had a paragraph on abusive behaviour.  His behaviour is borderline abusive IMO.  I would quietly point it out to the TD and ask him/her to keep an eye on the player - assuming he was rude enough to upset me.

If he was just mildly irritating (many players are!) - I would just ignore him up until the point he busts out, then state "good game!" a little louder than usual.

[TightEnd]

Let me turn the tables richard

what would you have done if this had happened a couple of days earlier at the APAT

APAT rules allow for time penalties away from the table and then disqualification. The Broadway's rules last night would have allowed the TD to take action.


Lets not turn this into an APAT thread though !

[Jon MW]

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You point out you don't find their behaviour acceptable (sounds like something out of SuperNanny...) and if you don't get the right response you ask the TD/cardroom manger to sort.

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The perfect solution - get them to stand on the naughty step until they promise to behave themselves.

[SupaMonkey]

Yay SupaMonkey agrees with me.

Seriously thou, mug him for all his chips an give him a mother of a rubdown. Hopefully outdraw him an then laugh in his face.

Don't forget to let down the tyres on his car.

[mikkyT]

Just have 3 of your boys waitin outside the casino to give him a rubdown of his very own? lol...

[bolt pp]

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if you are not being directly insulted but a person you do not know feels intimidated by it being aimed at them, would you sort it out in a poker room with cameras and td's to enforce rules?

how?

I wouldn't, It would have nothing to do with me.

If this person is an adult having problems with one other adult then I'm afraid that i cant help.

If a stranger isn't willing to put themself in danger of potential physical harm to protect themself from ridicule and uphold there dignity then i should? NO WAY!!!

If i knew the person and had feelings for them the i would stick up for them.

If i saw a child being beaten up by and adult in the street i would stop it, but if i saw two adults fighting in the street(unless one was clearly being stamped to death) then I'd concern my self at that time with my own business and where i was going and leave them to it.

tighty, you were there and know whether or not it was more than intimidation for the purpose of poker, from what you described it wasn't, If he did it to me i would tell him to shut his mouth and tell him that i think from the behaviour hes demonstrated he was the Muppet,he'd either shut his mouth and wouldn't open it again, or if hes any sort of person we'd wind up outside and he may bash the shit out of me, he might not, but i would be happy in myself that i didn't allow myself to be completely mugged off by a stranger in public.

IMO its tantamount to leaving your front door open and letting everyone come in and take all your stuff without stopping them.

[thetank]

Seriously thou, mug him for all his chips an give him a mother of a rubdown. Hopefully outdraw him an then laugh in his face.

So your plan to deal with an abusive player is to get your chips in with the worst of it?

[boldie]

Seriously thou, mug him for all his chips an give him a mother of a rubdown. Hopefully outdraw him an then laugh in his face.

So your plan to deal with an abusive player is to get your chips in with the worst of it?

well, you have to keep playing like you always do, right?

[mikkyT]

No no. U get them in when you hit. Iike Ratman. Or Ali. Then laugh heartily when his bullets are cracked by your 73 two pair..

[Ginger]

Not trying to sidetrack but on a similar note, what is the best way to deal with a drunk at the table other than taking their chips lol.

Last weekend at the Rendezvous there were several lads that had had quite a few too many (ok, they were bladdered) they were having a great time judging by the noise level and they were lifting the atmosphere.  Later into the evening and MANY more drinks for them all, I got moved onto a table that had a couple of the very drunk lads on.  I was greeted by an extremely drunken monster stack with the now tiresome “I’m going have your chips” …….yawn.  Now once upon a long time ago this would have bothered me but I’m a big girl now, a standard putdown is usually enough to quieten them and I dished out a bit of banter back.  It soon became apparent that this guy had seriously ticked off the table (Yay, I’m thinking) and I could see why.  Drink was getting spilt on the table, he was taking forever to act as he hadn’t realised it was even his turn, or acting out of turn.  Ridiculing people after giving them a bad beat….  I honestly don’t think he even realised it was affecting the players as he was having a great time!

Later still he made a blind raise, then called another players all in (still in the dark and for all his stack lol) it all got a little too tense after he cracked Mr All-ins AA (he had 57o and thought this was just hilarious) I truthfully thought the table was going to get turned over, two hands later I took a large chuck of his stack but got a venomous “Bitch” for doing so.  The table tried to make light of it and every time I won a pot for the next 30 mins I was received a bitch comment (must point out that these comments were not supposed to be offensive, well maybe they were! lol) Thankfully he was out soon afterwards.

Surely we shouldn’t have to put up with that sort of behaviour either!?  Yes there were other lads that had been drinking plenty, but they weren’t being a complete pain in the backside and damn ignorant. The staff either didn't realise it was going on or allowed it, and did nothing about the drinkers until the final table.


(By the way, it didn’t affect me too much as I went on to take 2nd)

[Acidmouse]

Thats really lame what he was doing.

Good thing about my local in Leeds is the numpteys have yet to invade it, and the games are all played in very good spirit. If someone was acting like that I would be split in terms of what to do, not easy.

[Poppet7]

Thats part of the problem. Ipod generations if l cant hear it then its ok.

Poppet u need to be less sensitive.

Compare this dude with Chubbs - both trash talk. Both can be offensive. Difference is Chubbs knows who to offend lol.

No because I don't think that me, or anyone else, deserves disrespect...unless it's in a poker sence

[mikkyT]

But disrespect is subjective and in context.

To me bein called a muppet can never be offensive. Its a term for banter..Like mug or fish.

[bolt pp]

But disrespect is subjective and in context.

To me bein called a muppet can never be offensive. Its a term for banter..Like mug or fish.

I dont think its banter if he's telling his mates in front of you that he thinks you're a muppet.