APAT - an Apology

[kvnstv]

Don't know why you feel the need to apologize Tikay these things happen and you had not announced anything yet. It does beg the question where to go in the future with the live events though. So much good word was spread about the first events its not going to take long to outgrow any possible locations in the UK and I don’t imagine we will all be able to decamp to the Rio every couple of months. I think some kind of regional qualifying is almost inevitable. Could be a very good thing for an amateur association, You could create 6 regions (South, Midlands,North,Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland). I don’t think you would have to many problems getting 100 runners for each, all could pay £50 entry and the top 30% could qualify for the national competitions with accommodation and travel paid. But i dont know the numbers so could all be nonsense for all I know. Anyway keep your chin up the concepts solid as a rock.

[patman]

i might be wrong but is it not the case that venues have to be reasonably wheelchair friendly...or have made efforts to be disabled friendly.according to legislation..or is that just a workplace requirement

i would have thought that the proposed venue should be taking this on board and doing something about it.....from a legal and a moral standpoint...a chance to score some positive points??

however apat made a good decision here..well done

[kinboshi]

The DDA (Disability Discrimination Act) was passed in 1995, stating that: “It's unlawful for a service provider to discriminate against a disabled person by refusing to provide any service which it provides to members of the public.”

All casinos SHOULD be as accessible as possible to the public (whether they are 'members' or not).

The APAT is making the correct decision on this one.  There were three people in wheelchairs at the Broadway Casino, as the numbers at these events increases, this number will surely increase.  Also APAT is still growing, and it should be an inclusive organisation - which is obviously what it is striving to be.

Early teething problems, they'll all get sorted sooner or later.  Keep up the good work.

[Bainn]

Tis a shame, but these things do happen and Tikay told us straight.

I do not fear for future events, having complete confidence in the APA delivering.

[Zebediah]

I love the Broadway and it is nice and close to me, but it only held 120 leaving a lot of disapointed punters.

Could we not use the 400 seat venue where everyone gets a seat and work together to get round the wheelchair issue together, I would happily help to lift in and out (in case of a fire etc).
Or would this be a problem legally?

[TightEnd]

It is a legal, for the venue, and a practical, for us and the disabled person, problem.


The scottish venue is a category b listed building and thus currently exempt from the provisions of the DDA. However they are keen to have us and are working hard at meeting our needs for 2007, for which we are grateful


The venue we are hopefully close to securing for 18/11 will have no capacity issues.

[ThinkerJE]

Thanks for the update Tikay.  Absolutely the right decision.  I was planning to travel to Scotland for event 2 and still plan to go in February when the issues have been sorted.  However it is vital that every member has the same opportunity to play in the event and I am sure the alternative venue will be able to accomodate all members who wish to attend.  Looking forward to the next event, wherever it may be.

[Zebediah]

Fair enough,

Well going by the rumours, if it is an "all you can seat" venue in the midlands.
Expect my entry fee about 2 minutes after you announce it!

Zeb

p.s. Looks like once again (last 3) I will miss ANOTHER online event tomorrow....bloody saturdays, the wife seems to think her Aunts 50 wedding anniversary party is more important....this is not helping my league status!

[mikkyT]

The DDA (Disability Discrimination Act) was passed in 1995, stating that: “It's unlawful for a service provider to discriminate against a disabled person by refusing to provide any service which it provides to members of the public.”

All casinos SHOULD be as accessible as possible to the public (whether they are 'members' or not).

The APAT is making the correct decision on this one.  There were three people in wheelchairs at the Broadway Casino, as the numbers at these events increases, this number will surely increase.  Also APAT is still growing, and it should be an inclusive organisation - which is obviously what it is striving to be.

Early teething problems, they'll all get sorted sooner or later.  Keep up the good work.

Casinos don't "provide a service", nor are they open to members of the public. You have to join first, so they are strictly members only.

[dik9]

Casinos don't "provide a service", nor are they open to members of the public. You have to join first, so they are strictly members only.

 

[mikkyT]

Casinos don't "provide a service", nor are they open to members of the public. You have to join first, so they are strictly members only.

 

lol What service do they provide? Fire, Police, Water? Perhaps gas. They serve beer and food, but I'd hardly call that a service! Thats more of a consumable rather than something in a service industry.

They provide the service of a means of loosing money, thats what! But I doubt that can be classed as a service either

[dik9]

lol What service do they provide?

Customer service??

I was more wondering what the DDA would say when a manager wouldn't sign a member of the publics "intent to game" slip, because someone was disabled?

[mikkyT]

Hey don't pick on me, I was the one who "ratted" about the lack of disabled access in the first place.

[dik9]

Hey don't pick on me, I was the one who "ratted" about the lack of disabled access in the first place.

LOL I am a strip of piss never picked on anyone, spesh not a scotsman

[mikkyT]

I'm nae Scawtish!