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« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2005, 03:59:24 PM »

how is he going to have a hard decision?

He will have to call 900 to win thousands, he is already commited, thats the point you dont seem to get. He may aswell cover up the screen as he is calling if you move all in.


This is like banging my head against a brick wall.
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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2005, 04:03:59 PM »

i'm also banging my head against my wall!!! ironside ring one of ur pokerschool mates up and ask him!

He's played it well to get ur chips in regardless what hand u hav!!!!

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« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2005, 04:06:18 PM »

if he cant see how well the other bloke played his sevens , im cancelling his sponsorship contract .
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« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2005, 04:06:31 PM »

the point is it was going in regardless right we all agree on that

now at present he is a favourite to win the pot

but if an ace hits or a king he is then calling the rest of his chips as a 20-1 dog on turn instead of the 4-1 favourite he is on flop
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« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2005, 04:09:08 PM »

FFS ... if he moved all in on the flop, a fish with AK would prob fold... the way he played it was CORRECT to suck as many chips out of you as he could.
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« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2005, 04:09:50 PM »

yes but if u have a worse hand than ak u may not call the extra 925... therefore he is hoping u put him in on the turn regardless of u getting lucky!

as flushy said earlier, it is about building ur stack... maybe not playing perfect poker!!!

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« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2005, 04:11:51 PM »

if he cant see how well the other bloke played his sevens , im cancelling his sponsorship contract .

the other guy played the badly yes they were the winning hand and yes he got paid by me overplaying the AK but calling on the flop was a huge mistake when he knows he will get paid

in a freezeout where i might have folded to a reraise (to preserve my stack) it might have been a good move to try and get me to commit the rest of my chips but at the risk of having to throw chips in as a dog
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« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2005, 04:15:52 PM »

I am actually getting wound up.


IF THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO IN ANYWAY, DOES IT MATTER WHEN IT GOES IN!!!!!!!!!! Point is all 5 cards are going to come down!
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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2005, 04:17:57 PM »

flush i will conceed to that point

i just think if it was me playing i would want all the chips going in while i am ahead and not having to put the rest in after a scare card has hit
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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2005, 04:19:46 PM »

I am actually getting wound up.

Lmao @ flushy getting wound up ..... i bet you could rip a tissue couldnt you flushy Smiley   you are far too nice a bloke to get angry lol
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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2005, 04:19:56 PM »

no the point is if he reraises i cant fold as i am getting 3-1 for a 3-1 shot in a rebuy tourny

But he doesn't KNOW you cant fold. He's probably played people who can fold in this spot. He wants to be sure. So he calls instead of reraising. He obviously willing to risk an overcard in an attempt to get more chips. I don't think he's played it badly at all if I'm honest.
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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2005, 04:24:16 PM »

ahhhhhhhhhh

he played it welll!!! its a rebuy! if he makes a mistake then he can buyin, now he has made a decision and it has worked! we make them all the time in this game wrong and right... this one worked!

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« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2005, 04:26:36 PM »

i still think if your going to play a small pp in this postion you need to raise
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« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2005, 04:28:58 PM »

How many times have you raised before the flop and missed, then bet to see where you are (or win it there) and been reraised and folded?
i've done it thousands of times, he kept you in the pot, simple.
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« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2005, 04:29:39 PM »

i still think if your going to play a small pp in this postion you need to raise

Against a good player who wont pass for the remaining 950 I agree. However to be SURE of the opponent getting the 950 in I think the call is best. Especially in a rebuy.
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