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« on: October 26, 2006, 09:40:57 AM »

Well the Chairboys have made it through to the next round of the Carling Cup.  Having beaten three teams from higher divisions so far (Swansea, Fulham, Doncaster) we now face Notts County away. 

They have had a decent run so far, beating Palace Middlesborough and Southampton and are currently two points behind us in fifth having beaten us already at their place this season.

My question is this, as a lower league side in the cups, would you rather face a side closer to your level therefore giving you a better chance of getting through (in theory) or a more glamourous side to rake the money in?
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 11:37:44 AM »

Well the Chairboys have made it through to the next round of the Carling Cup.  Having beaten three teams from higher divisions so far (Swansea, Fulham, Doncaster) we now face Notts County away. 

They have had a decent run so far, beating Palace Middlesborough and Southampton and are currently two points behind us in fifth having beaten us already at their place this season.

My question is this, as a lower league side in the cups, would you rather face a side closer to your level therefore giving you a better chance of getting through (in theory) or a more glamourous side to rake the money in?

rake the money in every time.  Also the "better chance of getting through" isn't always the case as the top teams will probably field weaker sides (IOW not their top players) and the teams close to you in the league probably won't.
If you manage to knock out one of the premiership teams you will also geta  lot of good press and it makes more people come and see the game again..or even the telly showing your next game live.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 12:54:09 PM »

Ordinarily I'd like the bigger club draw but with the Carling Cup nowadays this will generally mean a team of reserves so the appeal is lost.  Potentially it gives you a better chance of causing an upset but, as with Arsenal the other night, the team of reserves is generally good enough to beat the top Championship teams.

So I say give us the easier draw in the hope that we play a full strength 'big team' in the Final!

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PS: It also annoys me that we (Barnsley) descended to fielding a reserve team when we played MK Dons in the last round.  FFS we were in the same division as them last season.  Naturally we lost, thus denying the fans of any prospect of a 'glamour tie'.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2006, 01:11:12 PM »

Went to Leicester/Villa the other night...a complete stormer. The legend that is MON got a great reception and we equalised twice and almost took them to penalties

As to the question....I'd take winnable ties all the way...teams like Leicester, Tranmere have reached finals of this and if you get a long way in it you a) rake in the money anyway and b)give long suffering fans something to get up for

I know its derided as mickey mouse and some big clubs don't take it too seriously, but tell that to sides not in Europe for whom it represents their best chance of silverware.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2006, 01:18:31 PM »

As a supporter of one of the five english teams who have never reached the quarter finals of the league cup i'll take playing lower league opposition every day of the week.

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2006, 02:37:08 PM »

Thank god Leeds lost, a spanking by Man Utd would have hurt.

Chesterfield vs Charlton geez local leeds boy Caleb Folan better not do Charlton!
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2006, 03:58:55 PM »

Thank god Leeds lost, a spanking by Man Utd would have hurt.

you mean the spanking by Southend* didn't?

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2006, 04:02:55 PM »

Yes, erm, well Southend beat us but all their goals were gimmies and mistake by us, they didnt dominate the match unlike the other games we got truly spanked.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2006, 05:21:44 PM »

as an arsenal fan, i hate the carling cup. i wish it was scrapped the only good thing about it is we can see some of our kids coming through like fabregas,eboue,senderos over the years, but that is the only plus side to it but we even get moaned at then, arsenal dont take it seriously, even their reserve side is full of foreigners etc etc.A mate of mine is a west brom fan and went the other night and said that even our 2nd team play great football, better than most but we still get bad press about it.

i have a season ticket at arsenal and go home and away but Ive only been to 1 CC match in 7 seasons, thats how important it is to me. we have drawn everton in the next round, away , and i think if they field their 1st team we will be out.

i think Matt made a post saying that for teams that are not in Europe it is a competition that they are desperate to win and i think it is those clubs that keep this cup going, for that when arsenal get knocked out to everton i will support Charlton in this years league cup.


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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2006, 08:56:37 PM »

Thank god Leeds lost, a spanking by Man Utd would have hurt.

Chesterfield vs Charlton geez local leeds boy Caleb Folan better not do Charlton!
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2006, 09:16:27 PM »

as an arsenal fan, i hate the carling cup. i wish it was scrapped the only good thing about it is we can see some of our kids coming through like fabregas,eboue,senderos over the years, but that is the only plus side to it but we even get moaned at then, arsenal dont take it seriously, even their reserve side is full of foreigners etc etc.A mate of mine is a west brom fan and went the other night and said that even our 2nd team play great football, better than most but we still get bad press about it.

i have a season ticket at arsenal and go home and away but Ive only been to 1 CC match in 7 seasons, thats how important it is to me. we have drawn everton in the next round, away , and i think if they field their 1st team we will be out.

i think Matt made a post saying that for teams that are not in Europe it is a competition that they are desperate to win and i think it is those clubs that keep this cup going, for that when arsenal get knocked out to everton i will support Charlton in this years league cup.


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I know an Arsenal season ticket holder and I'm sure he said that for his 700 quid he gets all home PL, FA cup and CL games... but not carling cup! If this is right it is absolutely crazy. I have no issue with the big teams playing lesser teams... the cup provides a spot in europe and its the only way Newcastle with make europe for next year!

The cup won't be taken more seriously unless it attracts more crowds (through some sort of cricket 20/20 culture) or have more prize money throguth sponsorship.

Not that it matters, Watford have just equalised and we've scored our goal for the night.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2006, 09:24:02 PM »

Arsenal season tickets holders used to get something like 7 (maybe 10) cup games included in the ticket, regardless on which order they fell in.  If the CL games came first you got them, if it was FA Cup, then that.

This is about 7 years ago though.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2006, 11:02:05 PM »

Yes, erm, well Southend beat us but all their goals were gimmies and mistake by us, they didnt dominate the match unlike the other games we got truly spanked.

Yeah, but who else have Southend ever beaten in the cup?



 

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2006, 11:41:48 PM »

Yes, erm, well Southend beat us but all their goals were gimmies and mistake by us, they didnt dominate the match unlike the other games we got truly spanked.

Yeah, but who else have Southend ever beaten in the cup?



 



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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2006, 09:46:57 AM »

Yes, erm, well Southend beat us but all their goals were gimmies and mistake by us, they didnt dominate the match unlike the other games we got truly spanked.

Yeah, but who else have Southend ever beaten in the cup?



 



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