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SupaMonkey
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Re: Hu Hand
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October 31, 2006, 01:54:38 PM »
Yes Snoops,
What i meant was that if he called my flop bet i would more readily put him on a flush draw but his reraise made me think he had a made hand. If you check the flop, a club falls and he bets, what do you do? If you call here and then he bets again on the river, what do you do?
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boldie
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October 31, 2006, 02:07:47 PM »
Also...I hardly play anything else...I some times play a sat to a bigger buy in tourney going on in the back ground but that's it. MTT's are not for me....I wish they were though
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October 31, 2006, 02:09:31 PM »
Quote from: SupaMonkey on October 31, 2006, 01:54:38 PM
Yes Snoops,
What i meant was that if he called my flop bet i would more readily put him on a flush draw but his reraise made me think he had a made hand. If you check the flop, a club falls and he bets, what do you do? If you call here and then he bets again on the river, what do you do?
if you check the flop...he checks it but then you check the turn and he bets it you can stick a small re-raise in to see where you are..this guy (judging by the amount of chips he fired in would reraise you..probably all-in) you have no choice but to fold IMO and wait for a better opportunity to take him out.
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Re: Hu Hand
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October 31, 2006, 02:11:45 PM »
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 12:46:12 PM
Boldie what is your win rate in HU games?
77% ATM...that's over the past month.
Thats quite high, how many games is that?
178 played 135 won. (mind you, that's on various levels..and only on the very odd occasion do I venture above the 30$ level)
I meant all your games.
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SupaMonkey
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Re: Hu Hand
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October 31, 2006, 02:20:38 PM »
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: SupaMonkey on October 31, 2006, 01:54:38 PM
Yes Snoops,
What i meant was that if he called my flop bet i would more readily put him on a flush draw but his reraise made me think he had a made hand. If you check the flop, a club falls and he bets, what do you do? If you call here and then he bets again on the river, what do you do?
if you check the flop...he checks it but then you check the turn and he bets it you can stick a small re-raise in to see where you are..this guy (judging by the amount of chips he fired in would reraise you..probably all-in) you have no choice but to fold IMO and wait for a better opportunity to take him out.
I have position on him.
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boldie
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October 31, 2006, 02:23:54 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 02:11:45 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 12:46:12 PM
Boldie what is your win rate in HU games?
77% ATM...that's over the past month.
Thats quite high, how many games is that?
178 played 135 won. (mind you, that's on various levels..and only on the very odd occasion do I venture above the 30$ level)
I meant all your games.
I have only been keeping track of my HU games as off 7 weeks ago. And this month is by far the most accurate % I have. I am actually not doing it for any particular reason other then everyone says you should and with the thought of turning pro (in a month or so depending on when I get paid for my last job) I thought it'd be a clever idea.
I have experienced the same learning curve as everyone has with HU, I guess. Painfully stupid in the beginning ( a few months ago) and after a while I found it to be my strenght...I stink at cash games and, like I said, no good at MTT's (well, I get double my stake back sometimes but that's not good enough).
HU seems to be the way to go for me.
Also I reckon 77% HU wins (in shootouts..I don't play cash HU) isn't really all that high. If you can't get over the high 60's/low 70's then HU isn't the way to go as the most you can do when playing HU is double your stake (minus the reg fee which is ussually between 8 and 10%).
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October 31, 2006, 02:35:39 PM »
Quote from: SupaMonkey on October 31, 2006, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: SupaMonkey on October 31, 2006, 01:54:38 PM
Yes Snoops,
What i meant was that if he called my flop bet i would more readily put him on a flush draw but his reraise made me think he had a made hand. If you check the flop, a club falls and he bets, what do you do? If you call here and then he bets again on the river, what do you do?
if you check the flop...he checks it but then you check the turn and he bets it you can stick a small re-raise in to see where you are..this guy (judging by the amount of chips he fired in would reraise you..probably all-in) you have no choice but to fold IMO and wait for a better opportunity to take him out.
I have position on him.
yeah you are right of course...wasn't thinking there...at work..work puts me off writing coherent posts.
If you check the flop (after he checked it) and the club comes and he raises (he wouldn't stick that large a bet into a small pot as it would surely scare you off) say he bets 100. you could reraise him to find out where you are (300?) and fold if he bets heavily on the river or he moves all-in over you (then again..I would also move all-in over you if I had a weak ace and thought you would genuinely be scared of the flush). A flush is a tricky thing to put someone on especially when you have no other info to go on. (bets on the flop and all that). You did the right thing by betting the flop on a board with draws you would like to find out if someone might have them. (atleast I do)
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SupaMonkey
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October 31, 2006, 02:50:32 PM »
Ok, thanks.
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Royal Flush
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Re: Hu Hand
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October 31, 2006, 03:12:18 PM »
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 02:11:45 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 12:46:12 PM
Boldie what is your win rate in HU games?
77% ATM...that's over the past month.
Thats quite high, how many games is that?
178 played 135 won. (mind you, that's on various levels..and only on the very odd occasion do I venture above the 30$ level)
I meant all your games.
I have only been keeping track of my HU games as off 7 weeks ago. And this month is by far the most accurate % I have. I am actually not doing it for any particular reason other then everyone says you should and with the thought of turning pro (in a month or so depending on when I get paid for my last job) I thought it'd be a clever idea.
I have experienced the same learning curve as everyone has with HU, I guess. Painfully stupid in the beginning ( a few months ago) and after a while I found it to be my strenght...I stink at cash games and, like I said, no good at MTT's (well, I get double my stake back sometimes but that's not good enough).
HU seems to be the way to go for me.
Also I reckon 77% HU wins (in shootouts..I don't play cash HU) isn't really all that high. If you can't get over the high 60's/low 70's then HU isn't the way to go as the most you can do when playing HU is double your stake (minus the reg fee which is ussually between 8 and 10%).
I know a few people who play HU's for a living and not one of them has a 77% rate, not one of them would say no to 65%
Your stats basically mean you should pass AK if you are showed A2! If you believe someone has a FD you shouldn't be getting it in!
I've played a few hundred and i think my % is to high and it its 66%
I expect you will find a downturn in the future, if you are quitting work on the proviso that you will be winning 77% all the time then my advice would be not to quit just yet!
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boldie
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Re: Hu Hand
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Reply #24 on:
October 31, 2006, 03:19:59 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 03:12:18 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 02:11:45 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: boldie on October 31, 2006, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on October 31, 2006, 12:46:12 PM
Boldie what is your win rate in HU games?
77% ATM...that's over the past month.
Thats quite high, how many games is that?
178 played 135 won. (mind you, that's on various levels..and only on the very odd occasion do I venture above the 30$ level)
I meant all your games.
I have only been keeping track of my HU games as off 7 weeks ago. And this month is by far the most accurate % I have. I am actually not doing it for any particular reason other then everyone says you should and with the thought of turning pro (in a month or so depending on when I get paid for my last job) I thought it'd be a clever idea.
I have experienced the same learning curve as everyone has with HU, I guess. Painfully stupid in the beginning ( a few months ago) and after a while I found it to be my strenght...I stink at cash games and, like I said, no good at MTT's (well, I get double my stake back sometimes but that's not good enough).
HU seems to be the way to go for me.
Also I reckon 77% HU wins (in shootouts..I don't play cash HU) isn't really all that high. If you can't get over the high 60's/low 70's then HU isn't the way to go as the most you can do when playing HU is double your stake (minus the reg fee which is ussually between 8 and 10%).
I know a few people who play HU's for a living and not one of them has a 77% rate, not one of them would say no to 65%
Your stats basically mean you should pass AK if you are showed A2! If you believe someone has a FD you shouldn't be getting it in!
I've played a few hundred and i think my % is to high and it its 66%
I expect you will find a downturn in the future, if you are quitting work on the proviso that you will be winning 77% all the time then my advice would be not to quit just yet!
I am not expecting it to be 77% for ever.. Mainly because I will also be moving up levels when I turn pro. Therefore won't have to have a ridiculously high% Ofcourse I am also playing weak opponents at the moment. I don't play the levels the pro's play and, as you will know, most amateurs don't really know how to play HU which makes them fairly easy pickings.
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Re: Hu Hand
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October 31, 2006, 05:45:45 PM »
Always raising every time you have the button isn't a good idea for a lot of reasons. In fact when the blinds are small and not worth stealing you are better of always limping unless your oponent is an incredibly weak postflop player.
By limping you leave more room to meneuvre postflop, but if you commit to always bnutton raising you get yourself into trouble when the blinds get juicy since you're basically saying you're happy to raise with crap just because you have position. You're also giving up any chance you have of limp raising with big hands.
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SupaMonkey
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October 31, 2006, 05:47:49 PM »
Welcome to blonde.
Thanks for the comments.
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