APAT UK Amateur Poker Championship

[Moorman1]

thinking of entering..... how do I become a member of the amateur association poker tour?

[tikay]

No problems sir, I understand that i am being a pain, but i am pulling my hair out with frustration, but understand that you would like to get this event over first. Can we have a decent debate after Aspers event entries are sorted please?

You can have the debate any time you wish Rich, & we have, if you recall, asked you to meet with us to discuss APAT. But right now, this very 24 hours, is not the best time. The picture you paint of our Association's progress is a little unfair in my opinion, so yes, we ought to talk so we can correct the misunderstandings (in my opinion) you appear to have.

[tikay]

thinking of entering..... how do I become a member of the amateur association poker tour?

Hi Chris,

Try "www.apat.com"

[tikay]

Good morning all              Tikay or Des...... Just a little thought which was touched on, but not answered.....  What happens to people like my sister(who played in event one) and my mother(who watched the whole two days of event one and who wants to join and play in event two) who dont even own a computer?  Is that just hard luck or can I purchase as many seats as I want and pass them on?    Thanks....  The Cowboy, Kidderminster...

Good Question! I will speak with Des & see how we can deal with this. It's a fair question.

Please pass on my best regards to your beauitiful Sister, & to your delightful Mum.

[Tombstone]

On the 1st APAt thread I suggested regional and on-line qualifiers with 10-20% of the seats guaranteed and also at least the winner and a couple of the other final tablists to be given a seat at the next event.On this thread I asked what if someone didnt have a computer none of which recieved any reply, so all of these were my ideas and you cant use them.... unless I get a seat

coz I have just been reminded I am away all weekend and cant apply 

but  to all those that do get a seat

[The Cowboy]

Good morning all              Tikay or Des...... Just a little thought which was touched on, but not answered.....  What happens to people like my sister(who played in event one) and my mother(who watched the whole two days of event one and who wants to join and play in event two) who dont even own a computer?  Is that just hard luck or can I purchase as many seats as I want and pass them on?    Thanks....  The Cowboy, Kidderminster...

Good Question! I will speak with Des & see how we can deal with this. It's a fair question.

Please pass on my best regards to your beauitiful Sister, & to your delightful Mum.

Thanks Tikay, I will pass on your kind words to my family....hope to see you in Newcastle....

[snoopy1239]

I've only read half this thread so I won't comment specifically, but I think people should remember the disastrous start that the EPT had. Remember Barcelona anyone? 11-handed tables, people being turned away etc, complete shambles. But it was all part of the learning curve and only their first season, so mistakes are inevitable. Look at them now though. With a combination of constructive criticism and hard work they have turned it around and are now putting on quite possibly the best comps Europe has to offer.

So please take this into consideration when discussing APAT. They have your best interest's at heart and I'm sure they'll learn from these early outings in such a way that will enable each event to be better than the last.

[roverthtaeh]

As the APAT membership inevitably grows, I agree that live regional qualifiers are the way forward as opposed to online qualifiers. The purpose of the association was to give rank amateurs like myself the opportunity to play live poker in casinos across the country. To this end, the inaugral event in Birmingham was a huge success. From a personal viewpoint, I wouldn't have swapped my experience of that weekend for anything.
God knows how hard the APAT crew have been working to get this off the ground, but I think we have all seen the difficulties they face these past couple of weeks or so. Just finding one suitable venue has seemingly proved hard enough, so locating numerous, regional venues is going to be one hell of a headache.
Obviously I don't know how high the membership is currently running but I can see it reaching thousands fairly quickly. As and when the numbers grow, the APAT crew are going to find it increasingly harder to satisfy demand. Hopefully, in the future, potentail venues will be calling the APAT team rather than the other way around.
I don't envy the job that Tikay, Des, Tightend et al are doing but I wish them every success, and as a member, I am behind them 100% of the way.

[tantrum]

I've only read half this thread so I won't comment specifically, but I think people should remember the disastrous start that the EPT had. Remember Barcelona anyone? 11-handed tables, people being turned away etc, complete shambles. But it was all part of the learning curve and only their first season, so mistakes are inevitable. Look at them now though. With a combination of constructive criticism and hard work they have turned it around and are now putting on quite possibly the best comps Europe has to offer.

So please take this into consideration when discussing APAT. They have your best interest's at heart and I'm sure they'll learn from these early outings in such a way that will enable each event to be better than the last.

 

[ripple11]

Snoopy is right of course, we know APAT have our best interests at heart....and we all know at this early stage its a learning curve, and so thats why suggestions and constructive criticism are important......if they they dont want to take them onboard its up them ....they set out the stall and we can either buy or not.

Over subscription to the first event meant a lottery to get a seat.....fair enough....it was great to see how popular the APAT was .

The solution for the second event was to be a larger venue/more days...so everyone who wanted could enter...unfortunately this fell through....no problem, these things happen.

 Another venue is found, but numbers although increased in capacity,numbers will still be limiited to less than the membership...., so I would have expected the APAT to let the members who missed out first time to have first refusal. It would mean the vast majority of members would have at least one chance to play live,(keeping everyone happy!) and be fair to those fighting for ranking points. It would also mean seats could be sold at a set time because there would be less members trying for a seat.

Fair enough the suggestion was rejected.... its not the end of the world, we agree to differ.

I'm sure Newcastle will be a great weekend...good luck to all those going and there is no doubt the APAT with all the added value , is going to be a great success,.....especially once DTD opens!!


PS thanks to Richard and Tikay for their mararthon session yesterday! .....an example of why the APAT will win through in the end 

[Foggy]

Pardon my ignorance but what and/or where is DTD?

[turny]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=3985.0


try the link foggy hope you got a few hours to spare.

dtd probably the most exciting thing to happen to british poker for many years

[TightEnd]

It's a straightforward question though, what changed your opinion?

We identified very quickly after launch that we were going to have tremendous demand, much more than we mistakenly identifed in our pre-launch planning phase, and that a clickfest would be unpopular and unfair to some without broadband. We knew there were different ways to sell the tickets and agreed that we would trial a ballot for event 1. Subsequently we agreed that we used first come, first served for event 2. By setting a window and not a single time we think we have a system that avoids the downsides of a clickfest and the randomness of a ballot.

A lot of useful suggestions are on this thread for the future...regional qualifiers, online qualifiers etc etc. As our scale grows we will undoubtedly be in a position to implement some of these ideas. Indeed we are already investigating the organisational and cost implications of some of the feedeback

As to the Association points, I believe tikay wants to pick those up and answer them and although his online time is limited until the weekend I am sure he will do so soon.

Finally, just to remind everyone we will announce a payout schedule (amended from Event 1 due to your feedback), slightly amended start times for the comp to ensure we finish early enough on Sunday night (Ripple11's feedback) and a window of time during which the tickets will go on sale on Saturday in the next day or so. There will be no need for anyone to be glued to their PC all day on Saturday once we have given a rough indication of time. Whilst there will be no time that will suit everyone, we'll continue to listen and discuss your ideas.

[boldie]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=3985.0


try the link foggy hope you got a few hours to spare.

dtd probably the most exciting thing to happen to british poker for many years

now them's the wisest words in this thread they is.

[Karabiner]

Tighty I'm confused that whereas you "thought that a clickfest would be unwise and unfair" for the Broadway, you have now decided that it is ok for this 2nd event.

I'm also confused (I know I'm getting on in years) that although Tikay has said that in his opinion you will not sell out this time you still all seem opposed to allowing those who missed out in the ballot last time, first option of a place in this next event. Why would that be ?