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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2006, 05:58:04 PM »

did anyone see the Borat interview on friday night with Jonathon Ross when he grabbed Ross' crotch?

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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2006, 07:33:58 PM »

yes i saw it. but jonathon was not brave enough to return the favour..lol

he is very funny but i wouldnt like it if he was taking the piss out of Scotland like that.

i think he would have the balls to go to Kazakhstan because hes a cheeky fecker
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2006, 09:25:14 PM »

I don't think he really takes a piss out of Kazakhstan per se, although his choice of the country could be treated as ignorance in itself.  The very point is that not many people know much about the country, anyone who has beed there will know that Borat does not even look like Kazakh, as most population comes from old Persian and then Mongol Empire.  Also the fact that he talks in a mixture of russian, polish and some other gibberish is another give away.

So it is in a way a satire on ignorance of American people towards other countries and cultures.
I have not seen the film, just saw some extracts and old Borat's episodes. 
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2006, 10:05:54 PM »

Quite simply one of the funniest movies ever made. Womble did his back in laughing so much he pulled a muscle and he is the stereotypical tory boy guardian reader. Anyone who classes this film as racist doesn't have a sense of humour.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2006, 10:10:22 PM »

Quite simply one of the funniest movies ever made. Womble did his back in laughing so much he pulled a muscle and he is the stereotypical tory boy guardian reader. Anyone who classes this film as racist doesn't have a sense of humour.

 
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2006, 11:13:15 AM »

Still PMSL every time I see this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBirGHHzXOM
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2006, 11:17:10 AM »

Quite simply one of the funniest movies ever made. Womble did his back in laughing so much he pulled a muscle and he is the stereotypical tory boy guardian reader. Anyone who classes this film as racist doesn't have a sense of humour.

indeed.

I know several people who complained about this movie and for some reason it's the PC brigade gone mad.. It' s always the "he shouldn't make fun of Kazachstan because Kazachstan isn't that way and he's not being nice to them" brigade that ticks me off.

The reason he went with Kazachstan is because it is a nation everyone has heard of but noone knows anything about (when's the last time you went there on holiday?). The americans could therefore be convinced that he actually is a foreigner and not someone taking the piss out of them.

I also don't see anything wrong with the jokes he makes..they are afterall jokes that go to point out the stupidity of people. It's not that Americans are all racist...that's not his point. some of his jokes are seriously funny and some others the reaction of the people he puts his statements to make you cringe.
If you made a similar movie in the UK you'd find the same sort of people and the same reactions, he not taking cheap shots at Americans, there are stupid people everywhere (and they are ussually the people that complain too much about jokes being racist) And his interview/talk with the feminists were off the wall funny. Yes he was very offensive but it also goes to show just how stupid the people who are VERY pc ussually are. ""Letting a woman vote is like letting a monkey fly a plane, very dangerous" is a cracker the way he says it and the way the feminists respond to it.

The daily show with John stewart does the same sort of stuff in their interviews (just less blatantly racist)

Let's be honest...Borat has probably done more for Kazachstans tourism board then they have ever done for themselves. so the Kazachs can't really complain too much. Anyone who really believes Kazachstan is a country where every village has a "very very naughty" village rapist and wher they have a ranking of prostitutes is a poster child of post natal abortion IMO.

Blah..the movie is very funny...and that's the be all and end all with this one.
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2006, 11:46:16 AM »

Agreed with the above, except i would not be so optimistic about the
 
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et's be honest...Borat has probably done more for Kazachstans tourism board then they have ever done for themselves. so the Kazachs can't really complain too much. Anyone who really believes Kazachstan is a country where every village has a "very very naughty" village rapist and wher they have a ranking of prostitutes is a poster child of post natal abortion IMO.

People believe in all sort of rubbish....so not so sure some of the americans and english for that matter will watch this film with the knowledge of the meta-language.  What happened to Chris Morris excellent spoofs on news......... they were not taken as satire by many who claim to be intelligent.  Sad but true- masses are usually brainwashed and one can not underestimate their stupidity.

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I know several people who complained about this movie and for some reason it's the PC brigade gone mad.. It' s always the "he shouldn't make fun of Kazachstan because Kazachstan isn't that way and he's not being nice to them" brigade that ticks me off.

I hope you are no reffering to me as brigade I just pointed out that picking any country which not many people know about and creating a character has its problems, He does not make a fun out of Kazakhstan- he makes a fun of ignorant idiots who will believe in any rubbish if it is sold to them in a certain way.


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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2006, 12:25:53 PM »

not seen it yet, but looking forward to it
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2006, 12:54:01 PM »

Agreed with the above, except i would not be so optimistic about the
 
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et's be honest...Borat has probably done more for Kazachstans tourism board then they have ever done for themselves. so the Kazachs can't really complain too much. Anyone who really believes Kazachstan is a country where every village has a "very very naughty" village rapist and wher they have a ranking of prostitutes is a poster child of post natal abortion IMO.

People believe in all sort of rubbish....so not so sure some of the americans and english for that matter will watch this film with the knowledge of the meta-language.  What happened to Chris Morris excellent spoofs on news......... they were not taken as satire by many who claim to be intelligent.  Sad but true- masses are usually brainwashed and one can not underestimate their stupidity.

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I know several people who complained about this movie and for some reason it's the PC brigade gone mad.. It' s always the "he shouldn't make fun of Kazachstan because Kazachstan isn't that way and he's not being nice to them" brigade that ticks me off.

I hope you are no reffering to me as brigade I just pointed out that picking any country which not many people know about and creating a character has its problems, He does not make a fun out of Kazakhstan- he makes a fun of ignorant idiots who will believe in any rubbish if it is sold to them in a certain way.




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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2006, 01:20:16 PM »

I thought it was brilliant, laughed pretty much the whole way through.

I have to disagree about the impending Bruno film though, I do find him funny but not sure he can keep interest for 1.5 hours.
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2006, 02:21:55 PM »

I thought it was brilliant, laughed pretty much the whole way through.

I have to disagree about the impending Bruno film though, I do find him funny but not sure he can keep interest for 1.5 hours.

I thought the same when i heard about the Bruno thing. This would not be as popular and it wouldnt be very long i doubt!
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2006, 02:23:08 PM »

Awesome film, must watch it if you havnt seen it already.
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2006, 05:37:32 PM »

and he is the stereotypical tory boy guardian reader.

Is this not an oxymoron Huh?
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2006, 06:41:00 PM »

Oh and a quick warning for anyone who feels uncomfortable for others. I was sat next to my Jewish flat mate who wasn't laughing at much of the film - those who have seen the film will understand why. I was totally uncomfortable for many parts. He eventually worked out that it was actually a double back onto Americans for their racist views (Cohen has used this against his own religion many times over and works quite well.).



I read Cohen is Jewish.
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