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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2006, 10:55:45 PM »

this is not the first  scheme they have came up with first it was take away the cars if they drive to fast "so what ill get another car" more speed bumps, traffic lights crossings, "who gives a shit ill drive my car some where else" ban them from driving "what i need a piece of paper to drive that be right"  

maybe this isn't the answer but at least they are trying something.

anyway am off for my free tickets (vroom vroom )
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2006, 11:02:54 PM »


anyway am off for my free tickets (vroom vroom )

tee hee!
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2006, 11:19:19 PM »

I'm not much of a motor-head but as far as I know most modern cars engines are regulated by computers, I know that you can buy racing chips that act as electronic go-faster stripes. I'd go the other way for speeders. Instead of points on their license you tune down their motor a bit. You'll be able to tell persistent speeders as they'll be the ones being overtaken by golf buggies, vespa scooters and grannies in those wee motorchair thingies.
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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2006, 11:26:31 PM »

I think as an experimental scheme it is worth a shot although I would prefer if there was a financial penalty attached rather than handing out free tickets. If there is a causal rise in speeding after the free tickets are introduced, or if it fails to cut incidences of re-offending then stop the scheme and reintroduce traditional punitive measures. My problem with this scheme is that a) the incentives haven't been worked out properlyand b) I suspect there will neither be the resources or inclination for proper measurement to be carried out on its effectiveness.

 In the case of paedophiles/ sex offenders generally, I think first offenders need to be given a greater amount of psychological/ psychiatric treatment to try and change their harmful behaviour. With repeat offenders who demonstrably continue to pose a threat after treatment and are unlikely to change, I would favour life imprisonment (literally) or capital punishment.








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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2006, 11:28:54 PM »

Did i miss the bit in the article that said they wouldn't receive the usual punishment as well as the free trip to the track?
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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2006, 12:06:13 AM »

How about your kid playing football in your living room. Knocking over ming vases on narrow pillars and causing other such mayhem. For sure you'll suitably chastise them for doing what they shouldn't and plastering Grandad's ashes all over the shop. In the future though, are you going to tell him he can't play at all, or sort it out that he can go to the garden/park to have a kickabout?

What do y'all think about subsidised boxing clubs in areas like Soth Central Los Angles to reduce hospital admissions due to inter-gang violence?

I'm not saying this Knockhill scheme will work. In fact it's got a number of things going against it. Not least of all being that if boy racer totals his motor in Knockhill, his insurance won't pay out. Not so when he crashes into the Spar on the Esplanade.

Worth a bosch though, even if it's got a 2% chance of doing some good. If it fails, let's crack on with another 49 ideas.

Or we could take away everyone's licence who commits any driving offence. We'll see what happens, I'm sure they'll all stay at home and behave themselves.
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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2006, 12:17:14 AM »

my memory fails me  but im sure there was a similar scheme in nothern ireland 10 or 15 years ago , and i think one of the boys became a rally driver.
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2006, 12:20:27 AM »

my memory fails me  but im sure there was a similar scheme in nothern ireland 10 or 15 years ago , and i think one of the boys became a rally driver.

Either that or a getaway driver Cool

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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2006, 12:30:27 AM »

How about your kid playing football in your living room. Knocking over ming vases on narrow pillars and causing other such mayhem. For sure you'll suitably chastise them for doing what they shouldn't and plastering Grandad's ashes all over the shop. In the future though, are you going to tell him he can't play at all, or sort it out that he can go to the garden/park to have a kickabout?



The difference is when a kid is playing and makes a mistake he/she is not responible for a leathal weapon.

Some of the younger drivers of today dont see the potential harm they can inflict just by carelessness or being wreckless behind the wheel.

The best thing that ever happened to me was a kid running out in front of my car when i was 19, I was not speeding or driving in a wreckless way when I hit him, and luckily the boy got nothiing more than a slight concussion, A few minutes prior to this happening I was driving like a maniac, acting like a fool with a very dangerous toy, Had i not thought i saw a police car that boy could have died.

This is what gave me my perspective on the road, not every other young driver is as lucky.

If this scheme educates these kids that there are deadly consequenses to their actions, perhaps it may save some lives.
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2006, 12:33:22 PM »

Rewards for speeders, compensation for drug addicted prisoners, new identities for paedeophiles, rehabilitation for murderers.....
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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2006, 12:34:24 PM »

Puts the good in good post.
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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2006, 02:02:46 PM »

Congratulations are  in order for them having the initiative to try something new but I fear that rewarding speeding youngsters with a free day at Knockhill will have the opposite effect to that intended.

Yea if they learn better car control that's a good thing but what if the race day merely acts as a badge of honour like ASBOS currently are within certain elements of the community.

I would be more in favour of forcing speeding youngsters to confront the potential consequences of their actions so that they will think twice about driving irresponsably in future. This could be achieved by...
1) Being forced to spend some time tagging along with the police or firebrigade when they attend the scene of an accident and have clean up the mechanical and human carnage left behind.
2) Spend some time in a hospital A&E department and see the injuries people come in with
3) Spend some time with a family who has lost someone in an accident...(maybe too harrowing for the family though)

If I was a teenage driver again I would would see a day out at knockhill as something I would enjoy doing and would be more likely to think..."What speed do I need to get caught doing" rather than "Oh my God, I must try and drive more responsably"
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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2006, 04:17:43 PM »

In the ever-increasing battle against crime the single common denominator which would undoubtedly serve to help all concerned, both perpetrators and victims, has to be deterrent. Whilst schemes such as the Knockhill racing circuit one are innovative, surely the emphasis should be placed on detering the perpetrators in the first place. A slap on the wrist, 3 points on the license and a free day out can hardly be construed as a deterrent.
Regime in prisons is far from strict; those incarcerated have access to 'luxuries' of which they ought to be deprived. Being locked up is not the punishment it should be any more thanks to the civil rights brigade.
Rehabilitation works in some cases but not in others. Would you be happy as a parent if a so-called rehabilitated paedeophile moved into your street? Would you be prepared to put your child's welfare at risk in order to give the rehabilitated pervert a second chance?
I don't believe that simply locking everyone up and/or 'castrating' them is the way forward at all. But what I do believe is prison should be punishment to such a degree that the prisoner, when he leaves, will never want to return. To make people stop and think for a few minutes before deciding whether or not to commit an offence would undoubtedly be a step in the right direction.
Speeding, at face value, doesn't appear to be such a bad crime.... until a young kiddie or an elderly lady gets knocked down and killed. And let's face it, we all drive over the limit from time to time. Would we take more notice of the speed restrictions if it meant being caught resulted in us losing our license?
To my mind, deterrent is the biggest weapon we have with which to fight crime.
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