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« on: November 17, 2006, 03:05:27 PM »

okay

I'm getting sick of being outdrawn in games on laddies. i really love the site but my runs of bad luck are having a negative effect on my bank balance.
i am playing up to £25 MTTs and STTs which make my money run out faster but i find the lower amounts don't get my juices going. also i like turbos cause its quick gratification if I win or am placed.
Ive been trying to limit myself to 2 per night or 1 depending on how pissed off Ive become over the outdraws.

do i need to step back til my luck turns around or do i plug away? id play on other sites (which i do when i get really annoyed) but i really do like ladbrokes for some odd reason. somehow the other sites don't feel complete to me.........


any opinions or advice?
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2006, 03:07:39 PM »

Why do you play poker Mad?
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2006, 03:07:46 PM »

My best advice would be (1) Not to get annoyed and (2) Not to assume that it is bad luck.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2006, 03:16:37 PM »

run good, run bad, run good, run bad...

such is the life of a poker player
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2006, 03:16:56 PM »

My best advice would be (1) Not to get annoyed and (2) Not to assume that it is bad luck.

+ don't just play 1 or 2 per night as the beats really stand out when you do. Instead of playing 1 or 2 per night have 1 night per week and play 10...that way you ca really see where your game is.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2006, 03:17:52 PM »

Why do you play poker Mad?

i play poker because it gives me a thrill. i enjoy winning and getting money when i win. also, i like to outwit my opponent. just is not the same fun when i cant make all of the above happen.
are you trying to remind me of why i play or being confrontational? no offence, its just that some folk seem to be getting very confrontational on here at times and it has put me off posting asking  for advice around my play. now i have a poker coach (starts next week) i wont need to feel threatened when i ask for advice

and snoops, thanks for reminding me its not always about luck. just feels that way right at this moment
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2006, 03:18:51 PM »

My best advice would be (1) Not to get annoyed and (2) Not to assume that it is bad luck.

+ don't just play 1 or 2 per night as the beats really stand out when you do. Instead of playing 1 or 2 per night have 1 night per week and play 10...that way you ca really see where your game is.

good idea boldie then i can get a life at the same time....lol cheers thumbs up
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2006, 03:27:34 PM »

It could also be something to do with playing turbos.  The luck factor is going to be amplified, and therefore the variance will be greater.

An alternative might be to play slower speeds, and more tables instead?  That'll keep your need for action satisfied, but will allow you to play good poker and reduce the chance factor somewhat.

Just some thoughts...
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2006, 03:31:26 PM »

Mad, if you want to outwit your opponents, don't play turbos. all too often you are forced to play marginal hands from bad position because the blinds are killing you.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2006, 03:35:07 PM »

okay

I'm getting sick of being outdrawn in games on laddies. i really love the site but my runs of bad luck are having a negative effect on my bank balance.
i am playing up to £25 MTTs and STTs which make my money run out faster but i find the lower amounts don't get my juices going. also i like turbos cause its quick gratification if I win or am placed.
Ive been trying to limit myself to 2 per night or 1 depending on how pissed off Ive become over the outdraws.

do i need to step back til my luck turns around or do i plug away? id play on other sites (which i do when i get really annoyed) but i really do like ladbrokes for some odd reason. somehow the other sites don't feel complete to me.........


any opinions or advice?


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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2006, 03:36:25 PM »

okay

I'm getting sick of being outdrawn in games on laddies. i really love the site but my runs of bad luck are having a negative effect on my bank balance.
i am playing up to £25 MTTs and STTs which make my money run out faster but i find the lower amounts don't get my juices going. also i like turbos cause its quick gratification if I win or am placed.
Ive been trying to limit myself to 2 per night or 1 depending on how pissed off Ive become over the outdraws.

do i need to step back til my luck turns around or do i plug away? id play on other sites (which i do when i get really annoyed) but i really do like ladbrokes for some odd reason. somehow the other sites don't feel complete to me.........


any opinions or advice?


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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2006, 03:37:41 PM »

It could also be something to do with playing turbos.  The luck factor is going to be amplified, and therefore the variance will be greater.

An alternative might be to play slower speeds, and more tables instead?  That'll keep your need for action satisfied, but will allow you to play good poker and reduce the chance factor somewhat.

Just some thoughts...
Mad, if you want to outwit your opponents, don't play turbos. all too often you are forced to play marginal hands from bad position because the blinds are killing you.

actually, you are correct as I do get on a lot better when i dont play turbos. some excellent advice that i will use tonight. thanks
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2006, 03:43:02 PM »

you should your coach to teach you NL cash, nothing will improve your pokering quicker than that.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2006, 04:28:41 PM »

Why do you play poker Mad?

i play poker because it gives me a thrill. i enjoy winning and getting money when i win. also, i like to outwit my opponent. just is not the same fun when i cant make all of the above happen.
are you trying to remind me of why i play or being confrontational? no offence, its just that some folk seem to be getting very confrontational on here at times and it has put me off posting asking  for advice around my play. now i have a poker coach (starts next week) i wont need to feel threatened when i ask for advice

and snoops, thanks for reminding me its not always about luck. just feels that way right at this moment

I wasn't being confrontational Mad, although I now can see that the bluntness of my post could be read that way. If it was taken in this way I sincerely apologise. I just wanted to know more about your motivation for playing and to get you to honestly look at why you play.

Form is a very difficult thing to deal with, it can make you feel like you are the best player in the world or the worst. It is important to remember that you are neither. When you are losing and it seems like you are being constantly outdrawn it is very important to examine your game closely. Run some of the hand matchups through a calculator the results are often surprising.
Also it is a good time to go back to basics play some ABC poker. Ditch the turbos for a bit and play a tournament where skill will have more of an influence on the outcome. When I run a little rough there is a book I go back to , Fundamental Secrets of Winning Poker , by Mike Caro. It is based on his seminars and has important points written in big bold letters blackboard style. The content is fairly basic but it really helps me to focus my game again.
A few examples ..

In the long run in poker you dont get paid to win pots you get paid to make the right decisions.

The main reason people dont accomplish as much as they should in poker is because they dont play their best game always

Deception is often wasted on weak opponents because the most obvious strategy is usually the most profitable.

Money you dont lose is exactly the same as money you win

The cards will run bad just as surley as they will run good . You have to make the most from your good cards and suffer the least from your bad cards .

So take a deep breath and fire up an stt , play every hand (including those you arnt in) give it your very best then whatever the result go through the hand history and honestly look at where you could have improved. Look to see if you could have extracted more chips anywhere or lost less . All the hands you play are important so dont get fixated on your exit hand.
And dont forget the most important point of all.

In poker good players beat bad players

good luck

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2006, 04:52:58 PM »

Jezza

Thanks very much for some very useful advice. Theres no need for you to apologise. To be honest after I asked, I thought that you were probably trying to contextualise your advice so once again many thanks thumbs up
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