The Ashes

[TightEnd]

Giles has a better average this series than most of England's batsmen.

This is incorrect. The openers have struggled but the next three have very decent averages and big scores

lol....not incorrect Giles is 4th in the England averages.
Flintoff, Cook, Strauss, Jones all below him!!

there are 5 specialist batsmen in the england team and he is below 3 of them

flintoff is an allrounder, jones a wicket keeper


3 of out 5 specialist batsmen are above giles

Love

Mr Pedantic

[vegaslover]

Giles has a better average this series than most of England's batsmen.

This is incorrect. The openers have struggled but the next three have very decent averages and big scores

lol....not incorrect Giles is 4th in the England averages.
Flintoff, Cook, Strauss, Jones all below him!!

there are 5 specialist batsmen in the england team and he is below 3 of them

flintoff is an allrounder, jones a wicket keeper


3 of out 5 specialist batsmen are above giles

Love

Mr Pedantic

lolololol
I'd use wickie and jones very loosely in the same sentence.
Giles is neither a batsmen or an all rounder, yet still outscores most the team. If you cant put runs on the board you wont win test matches. England aren't good enough to consistently get runs.
Then, the bowling just hasn't been good enough.
Personally I would have liked to see Monty play, but for people to believe he's the answer, or that he is way better than Giles, is just delusional.

Quicker Vaughan gets fit the better, but England will still win only 1 of last 3 tests at best

[The Baron]

Giles has a better average this series than most of England's batsmen.

This is incorrect. The openers have struggled but the next three have very decent averages and big scores

lol....not incorrect Giles is 4th in the England averages.
Flintoff, Cook, Strauss, Jones all below him!!

there are 5 specialist batsmen in the england team and he is below 3 of them

flintoff is an allrounder, jones a wicket keeper


3 of out 5 specialist batsmen are above giles

Love

Mr Pedantic

lolololol
I'd use wickie and jones very loosely in the same sentence.
Giles is neither a batsmen or an all rounder, yet still outscores most the team. If you cant put runs on the board you wont win test matches. England aren't good enough to consistently get runs.
Then, the bowling just hasn't been good enough.
Personally I would have liked to see Monty play, but for people to believe he's the answer, or that he is way better than Giles, is just delusional.

Quicker Vaughan gets fit the better, but England will still win only 1 of last 3 tests at best

So what is this average Giles has? Is it one that will turn a test match? Doubtful. Wickets will though.

Comparing his stats to Monty's will also show you he IS the inferior bowler to Monty.

The fact giles has a better crap average that other batsmen who have been batting poorly and also have a crap avegare means nothing when it comes to changing a match.

[Rooky9]

Lower order batsmen must be valued by their partnerships rather than their individual average.

[Bazzaboy]

Lower order batsmen must be valued by their partnerships rather than their individual average.

True but you must also take 20wickets to win a test match

[Bongo]

And runs saved by better bowling/getting people out spend the same as runs scored with a bat...

[The Baron]

And runs saved by better bowling/getting people out spend the same as runs scored with a bat...

Nail. Head. Hit.

[Bongo]

Panesar, Giles, Read and Jones all played in the same match this weekend...

Jones lasted 1 ball whilst Read hit a useful 59, Giles 4, Panesar didn't get to bat.

Giles' figures of 8-0-33-0 to Panesar's 25-6-69-1.

I've also read reports that Panesar was utilised around the bat (leg slip and somewhere else) and his confidence, and fielding, was much improved.

[Sheriff Fatman]

3rd Test just started - Aussie's won toss and batting first.

Panesar and Mahmood in for Giles and Anderson.

[henrik777]

Monty gets his 4th wicket.

Selectors should run for cover me thinks.

Sandy

[Longy]

As a member of the Monty appreciation society, can i be the first to say I told you so. Just taken the 5th as i speak.

[Acidmouse]

Wonder why fletcher thought picking Giles over Monty was a good idea, you dont get wickets you can never win.  Glad he shoved that decision right up flethers ass today with a 5fer.

[Graham C]

Sounds like it's been a great day so far

[Graham C]

Is it being streamed on the net anywhere does anyone know?

[Sheriff Fatman]

England 37-2 - Cook out for 15, Bell just gone 2nd ball.