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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2006, 02:50:15 AM »

First off, I'd be wary of raising just 3x the blind with pairs like these. Just raising to $6 pretty much assures you of at least one caller, so unless you are fortunate enough to hit your set (or quads in this case), then you're always going to be faced with a tough decision (overcards on the flop very likely) in which you could waste chips unnecessarily, yet win very few if you do indeed take the pot with just the one pair of nines.

Come the flop, there isn't too much else you can do here except make it look like you're drawing by smooth calling. Any raise and he's going to slow down considerably.

On the Turn, however, I think you need to make a small bet. After re-raising pre-flop, I'd be very surprised if he can release his hand to a teaser bet. If he can, then he doesn't have anything that will allow you to rinse him anyhow. Betting the Turn, however, allows you the chance of winning two bets whilst checking means you can only win one.

By the River, I think you can bet more. I don't often see people fold Aces to a River bet, and if you make it chunky you could make it look like a bluff, but that depends on the information you have on the guy.

Overall, I don't think you played it too badly, just a few minor tweaks required here and there. For me, the key is to slowly building up the pot so you can bet into a more sizable pot on the River and make it hard for him to fold.

Alternatively, you could move in on the Flop to make it look like you are drawing. Once again, depends on your notes on your opponent. Can he let go of an overpair?
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2006, 02:54:01 AM »

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i didnt reraise on the flop,as he could well have had AK and i lose my customer.

This is a mistake that I feel many players make. If he has Ace King, then you're not going to get much out of him anyhow, perhaps an extra bluff. However, online cash is all about the double ups, so you have to play as if he has the overpair.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2006, 02:56:33 AM »

Preflop can be a fold sometimes, flop is the easiest call ever, bet turn.

I disagree, if you hit a nine then you have a good chance of taking his whole stack. The flop isn't the easiest call ever either. I can see how a raise here, especially an overbet, could be a useful tool. So many scare cards to an overpair can hit the Turn, so  surely the re-raise on the flop is at least worth considering?
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2006, 08:15:41 AM »

Preflop can be a fold sometimes, flop is the easiest call ever, bet turn.

I disagree, if you hit a nine then you have a good chance of taking his whole stack. The flop isn't the easiest call ever either. I can see how a raise here, especially an overbet, could be a useful tool. So many scare cards to an overpair can hit the Turn, so  surely the re-raise on the flop is at least worth considering?

If you raise the flop it is likely you have - AA/ KK / 9-x / 77 / T-8 / hearts - His equity against this range is probably not great enough to call when he has QQ/KK, if he has AA well then yes there are a couple of scare cards on the turn but you raised UTG and called a re-raise from an OOP player which makes it far more likely that you do not indeed have hearts or T-8 and his call is still pretty marginal at best.

You hit a set 1 in 7.5 times,
You still lose 18% of the time you flop a set to a pair higher than yours

1 in 7 times an A flops when he has KK and you won't stack him
1 in 3.5 times a K or A flops when he has QQ and you won't stack him

so unless you have pair value (which IMO has large RIO unless you are a great player in comparison and he is predictable) then you can't go around playing TT for set value alone in this spot.
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