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snoopy1239
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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Reply #15 on:
December 21, 2006, 08:38:46 PM »
My advice would be to raise more pre-flop with big hands. From my experience of online cash, whether it's $3 or $5, Mateyboy will still call with his A-Q, K-Q and whatnot (hands that will be in big trouble), but will fold those tricky 9-7, J-T, 7-5s hands that are difficult to put people on.
If the flop comes raggy, you want to be confident that you are ahead. If you are letting them in with hands that can catch raggy flops, then you're making life unnecessary difficult for yourself.
Don't get greedy with big hands, if everyone folds, then so be it, they prob didn't have anything that would pay you off anyhow. The way to get paid is to get the A-Q, K-Q, etc hands to call, whilst making sure that it's not a multi-way pot.
That way, you'll find it much easier to put people on hands and decipher how strong a position you're in.
Just my 2c, but it works for me.
That's all generally speaking. On this hand though, I think your opponent played it pretty well, you didn't do much wrong apart from not folding to his all-in, but I think quite a few people would have made that call.
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theplayer_uk
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 21, 2006, 09:02:56 PM »
lol, making that call is easy and correct.
Just because he had AA, pretty results orientated to be honest.
He also just called preflop out of position which is really awful play with AA.
Making bigger raises to define your hand really sucks and if you do it at any level that people watch what you do you will lose money.
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Nem
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 21, 2006, 10:23:49 PM »
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 09:02:56 PM
lol, making that call is easy and correct.
Just because he had AA, pretty results orientated to be honest.
He also just called preflop out of position which is really awful play with AA.
Making bigger raises to define your hand really sucks and if you do it at any level that people watch what you do you will lose money.
LOL
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theplayer_uk
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 21, 2006, 10:34:34 PM »
Quote from: Nemesis on December 21, 2006, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 09:02:56 PM
lol, making that call is easy and correct.
Just because he had AA, pretty results orientated to be honest.
He also just called preflop out of position which is really awful play with AA.
Making bigger raises to define your hand really sucks and if you do it at any level that people watch what you do you will lose money.
LOL
you tell me why im wrong.......
You can say LOL, but it just implies to me that you play 50nl or lower and lose. I play 1000nl and higher. I coach players at all limits
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Royal Flush
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 21, 2006, 10:37:42 PM »
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on December 21, 2006, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 09:02:56 PM
lol, making that call is easy and correct.
Just because he had AA, pretty results orientated to be honest.
He also just called preflop out of position which is really awful play with AA.
Making bigger raises to define your hand really sucks and if you do it at any level that people watch what you do you will lose money.
LOL
Yep that's Nem, $50 NL loser.......
you tell me why im wrong.......
You can say LOL, but it just implies to me that you play 50nl or lower and lose. I play 1000nl and higher. I coach players at all limits
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Karabiner
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 21, 2006, 10:41:21 PM »
I would have gone busto too, and I make a point of coaching noone.
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Royal Flush
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 21, 2006, 10:50:14 PM »
Quote from: Karabiner on December 21, 2006, 10:41:21 PM
I would have gone busto too, and I make a point of coaching noone.
Ralph what you don't realise is that all winning NL cash cash players coach other people, how else would they make a living?
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snoopy1239
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 21, 2006, 11:01:19 PM »
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on December 21, 2006, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 09:02:56 PM
lol, making that call is easy and correct.
Just because he had AA, pretty results orientated to be honest.
He also just called preflop out of position which is really awful play with AA.
Making bigger raises to define your hand really sucks and if you do it at any level that people watch what you do you will lose money.
LOL
you tell me why im wrong.......
You can say LOL, but it just implies to me that you play 50nl or lower and lose. I play 1000nl and higher. I coach players at all limits
But you say lol at the start of your posts all the time. Does that imply that you play 50nl or lower and lose?
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Nem
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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Reply #23 on:
December 21, 2006, 11:02:02 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 21, 2006, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on December 21, 2006, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 09:02:56 PM
lol, making that call is easy and correct.
Just because he had AA, pretty results orientated to be honest.
He also just called preflop out of position which is really awful play with AA.
Making bigger raises to define your hand really sucks and if you do it at any level that people watch what you do you will lose money.
LOL
Yep that's Nem, $50 NL loser.......
you tell me why im wrong.......
You can say LOL, but it just implies to me that you play 50nl or lower and lose. I play 1000nl and higher. I coach players at all limits
$25nl loser, actually!
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theplayer_uk
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 22, 2006, 12:59:58 AM »
>10bb/100 at 500nl+
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boldie
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 22, 2006, 09:29:08 AM »
Quote from: snoopy1239 on December 21, 2006, 08:38:46 PM
My advice would be to raise more pre-flop with big hands. From my experience of online cash, whether it's $3 or $5, Mateyboy will still call with his A-Q, K-Q and whatnot (hands that will be in big trouble), but will fold those tricky 9-7, J-T, 7-5s hands that are difficult to put people on.
If the flop comes raggy, you want to be confident that you are ahead. If you are letting them in with hands that can catch raggy flops, then you're making life unnecessary difficult for yourself.
Don't get greedy with big hands, if everyone folds, then so be it, they prob didn't have anything that would pay you off anyhow. The way to get paid is to get the A-Q, K-Q, etc hands to call, whilst making sure that it's not a multi-way pot.
That way, you'll find it much easier to put people on hands and decipher how strong a position you're in.
Just my
, but it works for me.
That's all generally speaking. On this hand though, I think your opponent played it pretty well, you didn't do much wrong apart from not folding to his all-in, but I think quite a few people would have made that call.
Good post snoop.
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byronkincaid
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 22, 2006, 12:15:31 PM »
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 22, 2006, 12:59:58 AM
>10bb/100 at 500nl+
What's your crypto name? If you PM me it I promise I won't tell anyone else.
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theplayer_uk
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 22, 2006, 12:37:21 PM »
Quote from: byronkincaid on December 22, 2006, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 22, 2006, 12:59:58 AM
>10bb/100 at 500nl+
What's your crypto name? If you PM me it I promise I won't tell anyone else.
I play as LAG as you want to
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byronkincaid
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 22, 2006, 12:57:28 PM »
yeah, I like the way you play. very laggy pre flop but you always seem to fold to my 3-bets
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doubleup
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Re: Do I go busto here?
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December 22, 2006, 01:55:23 PM »
Quote from: theplayer_uk on December 21, 2006, 09:02:56 PM
lol, making that call is easy and correct.
Just because he had AA, pretty results orientated to be honest.
He also just called preflop out of position which is really awful play with AA.
Making bigger raises to define your hand really sucks and if you do it at any level that people watch what you do you will lose money.
The AA play was bad, but the QQ was worse. If I play the hand I lose a bit but not everything. I would just call the flop bet - there is no reason to raise as you will only give a big draw or a better draw the opportunity to go allin.
I go bust the way played because I've made the pot to big to fold not because I have any great confidence that my hand is good. I really don't see how you can say this is an easy call (unless opponent was a scandi)
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