OT: Saddam Hussain

[snoopy1239]

So, do we think he should have been hanged?

I don't care who he is, I'm dead set against the death penalty and always have been.

Who are we to decide who dies and who lives?

[The Baron]

I am in agreement with you Snoops. The death penalty is outdated and barbaric IMO.

I cannot think of a suitable punishment for such a man though.

[Poppet7]

I'm not going to say much on the subject but in my opinion, he deserved to die. Maybe spending life in a torture chamber would have been more appropriate. I'm glad that such an evil man has gone to hell.

[Colchester Kev]

WE didnt decide, an Iraqi court decided.

Its the penalty for his crimes in that country, and should be respected.

[snoopy1239]

WE didnt decide, an Iraqi court decided.

Its the penalty for his crimes in that country, and should be respected.

Sorry, perhaps I should have been more clear, when I said WE, I meant WE as human beings.

[The Baron]

WE didnt decide, an Iraqi court decided.

Its the penalty for his crimes in that country, and should be respected.

Even more than that... he made the law himself!

[kinboshi]

I'm against the death penalty.  But I won't be shedding any tears.

I saw an interesting thing today.  There was a spokesman for Amnesty on telly saying the British government hadn't done enough to prevent the execution taking place - although they had voiced their opinion that the death penalty is wrong in any country.  The amnesty bloke said that they should have done more to intervene to have prevented it from happening.

I know it's a slightly different thing, but the same bloke was on a while back, saying that the West had no right to 'intervene' in Iraq no matter what Saddam had done.  Although at the same time he was condemning Saddam for his atrocities.

Well I thought it was interesting...

[The Baron]

I found it very interesting that the crimes he was hung for were carried out whilst he was an ally of the west. (We didn't seem to mind back then!) Apparently that did NOT get mentioned in his trial.

Even after some of these crimes were committed the US provided him with the know how of how to make chemical weapons and Germany provided him with actual biological weapons.

[Sark79]

I am absolutely against the death penalty,  we shouldn't kill anything in my opinion.

He looked very calm for a guy who knew what was about to happen. The very fact he didn't want to wear the hood showed he was 100% determined to put across a message of strength to his supporters. 

Regardless of what you thought about him as a leader, Iraq seemed a safer place to be when he was in control than it is now with our help. The level of violence is far greater without proper control even if that control was through fear rather than a fair Government

[Colchester Kev]

Regardless of what you thought about him as a leader, Iraq seemed a safer place to be when he was in control than it is now with our help. The level of violence is far greater without proper control even if that control was through fear rather than a fair Government

Oh my !!!    I am shocked.

[ItsMrAlex2u]

I for 1 am totally for the death penalty. Brutal murders and violent rapists and child abusers should be executed or at the very least castrated in the case of the latter 2.

Stick em in a cell for 30 years and it costs the state a fortune.

Why should the likes of Ian Huntley be allowed to stay alive??

[TightEnd]

shall I cancel my plans for the next 48 hours?

I sense a need for extra popcorn supplies....

[The Baron]

Regardless of what you thought about him as a leader, Iraq seemed a safer place to be when he was in control than it is now with our help. The level of violence is far greater without proper control even if that control was through fear rather than a fair Government

Oh my !!!    I am shocked.

Me too!

I'm sure Zaire was safer under Mobutu, Cambodia under Pol Pot, Serbia under Milosovic, Germany under Hitler etc etc etc - if you were the right type of person of course!!!!!!

[Ironside]

amnesty and the human right groups need to work out what they want

they point out human rights abuses and ask for the rest of the world to intervene

then when the do intervene they complain about people intervening where it doesnt concern them

i believe that in extremme cases of murder where the evidance is undeniable that the death penalty should be implemented

but i dont think it should be in place for most murders etc due to the fact that you can bring the person back

when 20 years later they work out its a misscarridge of justice

[Graham C]

actually that's not entirely an unfair comment Sark.  The people in Iraq at least knew where the violence was coming from before, now it's just totally random and anarcic.   It's going to take a long time to rebuild Iraq and restore it to a peaceful place.

I'm not against the death penatly for this sort of thing though.  The man was one of the most evil persons to have ever lived and deserved to die.

As for the death penalty for others, I don't particually agree with killing people but I think there should be situations (like this) where crimes are just so horrific that it requires a horrific punishement.  Of course the next arguement would be wheres the line between enough of a crime to warrent it and just enough to not warrent it?

The comment about sticking them in a cell for 30 years, why should the tax payer have to pay for that sort of thing?  It's not cheap to keep someone in prison, yet alone the security that someone like Huntley requires.