a question borne out of the sandcastle debacle

[quantify]

as a relative novice to large parts of the poker game i keep trying to learn (despite tk bollokin me at the broadway;) , inorder to do that you have to ask questions , now this may be a daft novice question but i really dont know the answer.

so pease dont laugh it is a serious  question. one which fter following the mallu thread i need answering please.



1. Why is it illegal in the uk to allow your starting chips to stay on the table in a tourney as you have to be physically in the building.


yet the rule changes the next day when you are on a final table ..  if your late(s i was in walsall)  my chips stayed there....


surely their is one gaming rule , is there a dispensation made in the gaming laws for finals ... bit weird and like i say probably me being a bit thick.

[tikay]

as a relative novice to large parts of the poker game i keep trying to learn (despite tk bollokin me at the broadway;) , inorder to do that you have to ask questions , now this may be a daft novice question but i really dont know the answer.

so pease dont laugh it is a serious  question. one which fter following the mallu thread i need answering please.



1. Why is it illegal in the uk to allow your starting chips to stay on the table in a tourney as you have to be physically in the building.


yet the rule changes the next day when you are on a final table ..  if your late(s i was in walsall)  my chips stayed there....


surely their is one gaming rule , is there a dispensation made in the gaming laws for finals ... bit weird and like i say probably me being a bit thick.

It's very simple Nick - they are the Gaming Commission Guidelines. Yes, I know, they make no sense, but them's the rules. They are there to protect you. (!).

And I never "bollocked" you at The Broadway - when I do, you'll know you've been tikayed.

xx

[quantify]

so you they state u cant start day 1, but you can compete the next day if your not there .......... how bizarre.

[bobby1]

Has anyone ever seen or read this set of 'rules'?

[quantify]

i was thinking the very same thing

[tikay]

I don't believe they are "Rules" as such, more guidelines. It's left to the Venues to interpret them. As the venues are, naturally, extemely protective of their Licences & want to stay right side of the GC, they ensure they are compliant by being "belt & braces".

I am unsure what the GC's stance would be on removing someone's chips from the table though, but one must assume they'd be supportive if said person was a Banned Member.

[tikay]

I have them somewhere in my computer, Heaven knows where, let me have a butchers.

[bobby1]

I once went to Naps in Leeds for their rebuy comp. I arrived at 9.00 for a 9.30 start and the comp was sold out which was a big surprise as many others arrived later and were disappointed. With about 20 of us left on the sidelines we asked if there was any chance of playing 11 a table, then at least some of us could get in -which we were told' Gambling commision rules mean we can only play 10 handed ' yet 2 days earlier we had played 11 handed in another casino.

I think some tiimes that phrase is used as a kind of 'catches all' excuse.

regards

[tikay]

I once went to Naps in Leeds for their rebuy comp. I arrived at 9.00 for a 9.30 start and the comp was sold out which was a big surprise as many others arrived later and were disappointed. With about 20 of us leftv on the sidelines we asked if there was any chance of playing 11 a table, then at least some of us could get in -which we were told' Gambling commision rules mean we can only play 10 handed ' yet 2 days earlier we had played 11 handed in another casino.

I think some tiimes that phrase is used as a kind of 'catches all' excuse.

regards

You were hoodwinked!

Napoleons in Sheffield often play 11 to a Table, as you know, & I've played 12 to a table in Notts.

But yes, I imagine the Venues do "hide behind" the GC from time to time.

[bobby1]

I once went to Naps in Leeds for their rebuy comp. I arrived at 9.00 for a 9.30 start and the comp was sold out which was a big surprise as many others arrived later and were disappointed. With about 20 of us leftv on the sidelines we asked if there was any chance of playing 11 a table, then at least some of us could get in -which we were told' Gambling commision rules mean we can only play 10 handed ' yet 2 days earlier we had played 11 handed in another casino.

I think some tiimes that phrase is used as a kind of 'catches all' excuse.

regards

You were hoodwinked!

Napoleons in Sheffield often play 11 to a Table, as you know, & I've played 12 to a table in Notts.

But yes, I imagine the Venues do "hide behind" the GC from time to time.

We actually explained that we had played 11 handed(and some 12 handed) but just got the GC rules mate, nowt I can do.

i

[Wardonkey]

I've read 'em a million times, I had to learn them back to front when I was working for Gala.

The rule in question comes from the Gaming Board Guidlines on running competions in cardrooms. It states that all players must be on the premises at the start of the competition. Most casinos require players to be seated, as this is the easiest way to ensure that they are compying with the guidelines.

The use of word guideline is misleading, a casino working outside the guidlines could, in theory at least, lose it's license.

[tikay]

I once went to Naps in Leeds for their rebuy comp. I arrived at 9.00 for a 9.30 start and the comp was sold out which was a big surprise as many others arrived later and were disappointed. With about 20 of us leftv on the sidelines we asked if there was any chance of playing 11 a table, then at least some of us could get in -which we were told' Gambling commision rules mean we can only play 10 handed ' yet 2 days earlier we had played 11 handed in another casino.

I think some tiimes that phrase is used as a kind of 'catches all' excuse.

regards

You were hoodwinked!

Napoleons in Sheffield often play 11 to a Table, as you know, & I've played 12 to a table in Notts.

But yes, I imagine the Venues do "hide behind" the GC from time to time.

We actually explained that we had played 11 handed(and some 12 handed) but just got the GC rules mate, nowt I can do.

i

That's called "a jobsworth", as in, "more than my jobs worth, mate" so conveniently uttered by those unwiling to stick their head above parapets.

[tikay]

I've read 'em a million times, I had to learn them back to front when I was working for Gala.

The rule in question comes from the Gaming Board Guidlines on running competions in cardrooms. It states that all players must be on the premises at the start of the competition. Most casinos require players to be seated, as this is the easiest way to ensure that they are compying with the guidelines.

The use of word guideline is misleading, a casino working outside the guidlines could, in theory at least, lose it's license.

The distinction between "Rule" & Guideline" is interesting for the very reason Patrick suggests. Not a rule, but go against it & you are dead......FWIW, they are Rules.

[quantify]

so ,  thanks wardonk is the start of the second day wrapped up in this ................................

[dik9]

Guideline 3 states that you must be on the premises at the start of the competition.

If it is day two and you were late, your chips remain, because at the original start of the comp (on the original start date), you were in the building.