Irish Poker Championships: Day 1 - Interactive

[ollyk1]

maybe??

A misread....lol

How do you know that??

Are you cheating, ya cheeky monkey?

Poker player caught in bluff shocker!!

Keep up the good work gang!

 I stilll can't believe Rob layed it down or even worse that he showed it. Never show a big laydown. Ever. It can't ever be the right thing to do.

[AlexMartin]

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

[Djinn]

Going into a 15 min break now.  I'm moving on to the Red Bull.  I am hoping to achieve that caffeine state wherein it looks like everything in the world is moving slowly and you can run through a sprinkler without getting wet.  I saw it in a movie.

[snoopy1239]

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

I'm assuming everyone would have folded Queens?

[ollyk1]

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

I agree in one sense Alex as he's adding a decent chunk risk free but on the other hand it's a long long way from the money so maybe optimal big tournie poker would be better and try to maximise the EV. I'm torn on this one on the one hand you can only lose a tournie early and notwin it but on the other hand you need to get chips at some stage.

It depends on if he three bets with non AA holdings too I guess to some extent. An interesting hand...

[snoopy1239]

Average Stack = 15,735
Next Level = Level 7, 200/400 (5)
197/310 remaining

[AlexMartin]

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

I agree in one sense Alex as he's adding a decent chunk risk free but on the other hand it's a long long way from the money so maybe optimal big tournie poker would be better and try to maximise the EV. I'm torn on this one on the one hand you can only lose a tournie early and notwin it but on the other hand you need to get chips at some stage.

It depends on if he three bets with non AA holdings too I guess to some extent. An interesting hand...

Yes its an intersting concept. Personally i like to play a lot of small/medium sized pots and slowly build a stack rather than risk my tournament on 1 hand. But there are phenomenal arguments you could make for getting chips early.

[ollyk1]

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

I agree in one sense Alex as he's adding a decent chunk risk free but on the other hand it's a long long way from the money so maybe optimal big tournie poker would be better and try to maximise the EV. I'm torn on this one on the one hand you can only lose a tournie early and notwin it but on the other hand you need to get chips at some stage.

It depends on if he three bets with non AA holdings too I guess to some extent. An interesting hand...

Yes its an intersting concept. Personally i like to play a lot of small/medium sized pots and slowly build a stack rather than risk my tournament on 1 hand. But there are phenomenal arguments you could make for getting chips early.

I know Alex I still read you blog! lol

I think a loose big stack may have a wider three betting range then AA in this spot in an effort to get worse hands then QQ to laydown so its not a bad move with AA to mix it up overall especially if you think the opponent is the sort to go busto overplaying QQ (obviously not in this case).

My problem is I tend to play a lot of small field live tournies so I don't always have to play the optimal and yet marginal plays to get into the money (as the standard is generally pretty atrocious to be fair) and this can lead to poorer performances and a decreased edge in bigger better quality field tounies. A case of familiarity breeds contempt. Something to ponder on in any event.

Sorry for pulling the update of track a little. But I guess we can fill the break with some white noise anyway.

[Djinn]

No, sidetrackers, I commend you - this is the whole point of the interactive thread - we try to find interesting stuff to provoke intelligent debate.  Or, failing that, you guys.  Carry on!

[AlexMartin]

Snoops and Jen wont mind, and if anyone else does......tough.

I guess when a player as tight as Red-Dog makes the third raise, you have to have him on AA/KK/QQ. Against more unpredictable opponents i think winning the pot now is fine. Against a (relatively) readable player like reddog (not an insult, just eveyone knows he plays solid poker), you can check raise him all-in on any flop without a K or Q and by then hes pot commited.

The more i think about it, when you get given the third raise treatment with aces, you should flat call.

Nice work ol
I feel clever

 

[ollyk1]

No, sidetrackers, I commend you - this is the whole point of the interactive thread - we try to find interesting stuff to provoke intelligent debate.  Or, failing that, you guys.  Carry on!

Damn. Outplayed by a lady barely able to stay awake. Embarressing.

[snoopy1239]

Huge pot and shocking acting news now...

10k+ already in the pot.

The board is

Kevin Parkes (from London but recently moved to Sheffield - how's that for detail??) checks

Tim Gillig (who I believe is German) bets 8.5k.

Kevin Parkes pauses for a moment before waving his hands and saying "Okay, okay, I'm moving all-in" in a more than slightly transparent 'I've had enough, I'm going to gamble with you' kind of way.

Tim calls for his last 11k.

Kevin (who had 12k in change), shows .

Tim revealed A-K off.

River brings a harmless 4.

Big pot, but not quite the biggest.

Kevin Parkes now has around the 60k mark.

[RED-DOG]

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

Well, I'm back in my room playing online and reading the updates. (Which are first class btw)

Does anyone think I overplayed the queens?

[AlexMartin]

Hard to tell red. Was the guy ultra tight, if so, maybe.
I think you played it right, you want to know if your losing preflop and a raise of any less doesnt send the right message.

[PeteL]

done nothing wrong with the queens tom u found out where u were and u coulda lost more playing it a different way